Should I get PGA qualified?

JustOne said:
(Despite your opinions of me that I've read recently elsewhere) I totally agree with your post. I'm not a great one for the quick-fix attitude but ultimately (and ironically) that's EXACTLY what most 'tips' on the forum actually are. What would I teach if I had 30 minutes? I'd teach IMPACT to every single person that didn't know it. If you make a golf swing and you don't know what impact is then where exactly are you trying to swing the club to? That would be like jumping in a taxi but not knowing your own destination.

I agree I might enjoy it less but that said I have ideas of things I would do... for example make a small brochure that covers the key aspects of a swing and give it to every person that I teach, so even in 30 minutes they'd walk away with something :thup:
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Only opinions of your methods rather than anything personal i might add.

PGA pros do only give a few fixes each time you see them as they build up your swing bit by bit if you work with them for a few lessons. However if somebody goes in for a fix for something they keep screwing up then what can the pro do?

The only other thing i would weigh up if i was you is can this new profession be enough for you financially etc as it seems quite a saturated area of work.
 
Mungoscorner said:
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Assuming the communication is false!
 
If you want to teach to a wider audience than is on offer with the forum then, yes, you should become qualified. This is more from an attractiveness perspective but also credibility.
You seem to have credibility with a loyal following of the forum and demonstrate a passion for the game and to impart knowledge which is commendable.
However, it's a double edged sword that you are not a qualified teacher and so in some eyes (mine included) you are giving tips rather than teaching - whether that's semantics, polluted terminology, whatever there is a reason that teaching qualifications exist.
I am competent with mechanics, can strip and rebuild engines, braking systems, suspension and running gear, I build project cars in my spare time... But, and it's a big but, I am not qualified and therefore would not impart self taught knowledge to someone else as fact.
Would anyone want me to fix their car, or would they rather take it to a garage and to a qualified mechanic?
 
Ironic as it may be, it seems that the main complaintents here (is that a word?) are ALL the people who have recently LEFT this forum for another.... coincidence? Hmmmm......

I'm happy to be provoked... but I'm not rising to take the bait. I'll answer your questions though because I'm happy to talk about golf :thup:
 
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JustOne said:
Would the mechanic patch it with some rubber tubing and say "that should run for a while now mate"?
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What a strange thing to ask? I assume you are attempting to be analogous to something golf related. I would expect the mechanic to fix the problem that exists and what is charged for. Unfortunately in ALL walks of life there are chancers and rogues willing to provide sub-standard service. But I would never tarnish an entire industry based on a minority.
 
Birchy said:
However if somebody goes in for a fix for something they keep screwing up then what can the pro do?
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Again, I agree. If someone turns up and is shanking then you fix the shank if that's what they want.

People who contact me seem to want more... my inbox has gone ballistic in the last 7 days :mad:
 
JustOne said:
Would the mechanic patch it with some rubber tubing and say "that should run for a while now mate"?
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Do you honestly believe that's what all PGA pros do and how they approach lessons?

You also need to remember that a lot of golfers on,y want a quick fix..... Most people I play with who get lessons aren't really looking to build their understanding of the swing from the ground up. They just want to hit x club better/straighter. Do you think you would get frustrated with customers with that approach?

You seem quite defensive so just to clarify these are genuine questions!
 
JustOne said:
Again, I agree. If someone turns up and is shanking then you fix the shank if that's what they want.

People who contact me seem to want more... my inbox has gone ballistic in the last 7 days :mad:
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I can understand that too and im sure if they had a few sessions a bit more managable time wise with you they would see greater results if you know your stuff etc just as they would with any PGA pro imo.

We all want more :D I think theres ways of doing it though. You cant learn it all at once imo.
 
NWJocko said:
Most people I play with who get lessons aren't really looking to build their understanding of the swing from the ground up. They just want to hit x club better/straighter. Do you think you would get frustrated with customers with that approach?
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Not at all, I love it when someone wants to improve their game.
 
Birchy said:
I can understand that too and im sure if they had a few sessions a bit more managable time wise with you they would see greater results if you know your stuff etc just as they would with any PGA pro imo.

We all want more :D I think theres ways of doing it though. You cant learn it all at once imo.
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Virtuocity lives 400 miles away!!!... we didn't have more time... I can't see him 10 times for 1/2hr each time.

Gibbo travelled 140 miles round trip, we didn't have more time. it was one day or not at all. You don't drive 70miles each way for 30 mins and a quick fix very often.
 
JustOne said:
Is a car mechanic golf related? :confused: who's doing the analogy here? I think I was replying to someone else's analogy.
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I never used an example of a rubber hose to fix anything. So... ??
That aside, you seem to want to help people and people want you to help them. If you don't want to be a PGA certified pro to do so then don't. If you do, then do. It really is that simple.
 
SocketRocket said:
You have something there. I have never had a coach explain anything about impact conditions and how everthing else is just a means to this end.
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Me neither :thup:... and I've never witnessed it being taught despite 100's or more lessons that I've seen. In fact you rarely even read about it,.... can you see the 100's of forum posts asking "what is impact?", No.
 
Seems to be getting a little terse on here girls!

I think JO's commitment and passion is very commendable, and if the guy is giving up his own time to help those that request it, more power to him.

However, there are some issues in this thread that I don't agree with. The 'quick fix' insinuation I disagree with completely, although I am sure there may be a tiny minority of pro's who may approaching things this way. My recent experience with PGA professionals suggests a thoroughly comprehensive and rewarding approach.

I would always choose a PGA pro over other advice, simply because there is a recognisable qualification there, and whether or not this is all it's cracked up to be, it shows the individual has the talent, patience and professionalism to complete it.

If my Dad were to ever read this, I would deny all of the above and say "Only your advice for me old man!". He plays off 14 and has a dodgy elbow and Furyk-like swing. When I say Furyk like i'm being polite. It looks mental.
 
JustOne said:
Sensible?

You left the forum to go slate me behind my back (like a child) on the other 'uber secret forum' where there's nothing but swearing and duplicate posts from here. I saw your posts backstabbing me, have a good laugh why don't you. Go to the swearing place... I'm sure you'll sell a lot of V-Easys from there!! I'm surprised to see you can even show your face back here.
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For the record I have been a member here since 2008 and don't spend everyday on here like some would seem to however not once in all that time have I ever read a post from Bob pushing his invention an surprise surprise he hasn't pushed it on the as you put "Uber Secret Forum".

That would be the same Uber Secret Forum that's on the world wide web for everyone and everyone.

Your constant jibs at Bob and his fellow fully trained professionals are getting a bit tiresome now.
 
JustOne said:
Me neither :thup:... and I've never witnessed it being taught despite 100's or more lessons that I've seen. In fact you rarely even read about it,.... can you see the 100's of forum posts asking "what is impact?", No.
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I would suggest that pro's don't teach 'impact' because it is the end result of all the other parts of the swing coming together. Get those right and the impact will take care of itself :thup:
 
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