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He has made a lot of money from LIV now
Pretty sure I heard he has made 15 million in Liv earnings so far.

Think this gets him into the US Senior Open and back In the PGA Championship as defending champion.

Senior Open Clashes with a Liv event so even if the DPWT granted him an invitation he probably couldnt play due to his Liv contract
 

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Pretty sure I heard he has made 15 million in Liv earnings so far.

Think this gets him into the US Senior Open and back In the PGA Championship as defending champion.

Senior Open Clashes with a Liv event so even if the DPWT granted him an invitation he probably couldnt play due to his Liv contract
Surely as an independent contractor he can choose which event he plays in?
 

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Surely as an independent contractor he can choose which event he plays in?
Think as a Liv player you can play in any event on any tour with no fines or issues but you have to fulfill your 14 Liv Events.

On The PGA Tour you have to play in at least 15 events to remain a member so very similar but you have to ask for special releases to play other tours events.
 

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I don’t think anyone would blame Bland for moving to LIV

It was perfect for him - he spent decades battling to win and keep his tour card

To be offered a spot on a tour where he knows that he is going to make millions just by being part of the pack is perfect for him - doesn’t need to battle to keep his tour card

He has made a lot of money from LIV now

Maybe he is at a crossroads now - he has earned the money , does he now go to look to get more wins on the CV
He might just prefer playing the LIV events - money aside.
 

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Because he could be winning tournaments and senior majors as opposed to be part of also runs on LIV 🤷‍♂️
Money talks. He'd be nuts to turn his back on LIV for a some Senior tour wins. In all honesty, most golf fans don't care about them. I couldn't tell you who has won previous majors and I can't recall ever sitting down to watch a Seniors tour event either.
 

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Money talks. He'd be nuts to turn his back on LIV for a some Senior tour wins. In all honesty, most golf fans don't care about them. I couldn't tell you who has won previous majors and I can't recall ever sitting down to watch a Seniors tour event either.

No doubt that money talks and he has done very well for himself for a decent pro , and not one person could blame him for going to LIV , he would be able to get untold riches for being the same decent pro

He has earned £15mil but still no further wins on LIV

So he could move to the Seniors tour and do very well there earning a couple mil each season but also adding wins to his CV - imagine having multiple senior major wins to his CV
 

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No doubt that money talks and he has done very well for himself for a decent pro , and not one person could blame him for going to LIV , he would be able to get untold riches for being the same decent pro

He has earned £15mil but still no further wins on LIV

So he could move to the Seniors tour and do very well there earning a couple mil each season but also adding wins to his CV - imagine having multiple senior major wins to his CV
Personally I'd rather have multiple millions than multiple wins that no one really cares about. Each to their own though.
 

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No doubt that money talks and he has done very well for himself for a decent pro , and not one person could blame him for going to LIV , he would be able to get untold riches for being the same decent pro

He has earned £15mil but still no further wins on LIV

So he could move to the Seniors tour and do very well there earning a couple mil each season but also adding wins to his CV - imagine having multiple senior major wins to his CV
It's possible to win senior majors without joining the seniors tour - Bland proved that last week.

Why would anyone want to join the seniors tour when they have a much better option, both financially and competitively?
 

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It's possible to win senior majors without joining the seniors tour - Bland proved that last week.

Why would anyone want to join the seniors tour when they have a much better option, both financially and competitively?

How many events will Bland win on LIV , he is mid table and stays just inside the top 24 - yep it’s better financially but is he really competitive there beyond making up the numbers ?

He could be topping up his finances whilst also being very competitive actually winning events - best of both worlds
 

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How many events will Bland win on LIV , he is mid table and stays just inside the top 24 - yep it’s better financially but is he really competitive there beyond making up the numbers ?

He could be topping up his finances whilst also being very competitive actually winning events - best of both worlds

He's too good for the seniors tour as he proved at the weekend - winning a major at his 1st attempt.

Tied 33rd in The Open - he should be getting considered for invites into any of the four majors based on his performances - he's still competitive amongst the elite golfers of the world.
 

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He's too good for the seniors tour as he proved at the weekend - winning a major at his 1st attempt.

Tied 33rd in The Open - he should be getting considered for invites into any of the four majors based on his performances - he's still competitive amongst the elite golfers of the world.
Winning one event proves nothing!

He’s bang average at best. One win on the ET in all those years proves that. Has he ever challenged for a LiV win?
 

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He's too good for the seniors tour as he proved at the weekend - winning a major at his 1st attempt.

Tied 33rd in The Open - he should be getting considered for invites into any of the four majors based on his performances - he's still competitive amongst the elite golfers of the world.
His best performance throughout his whole career is 22nd in a major

How does coming 33rd highlight an invite to the 4 majors 🤷‍♂️

He is a decent solid golfer who had 1 win in nearly 500 events

One top ten in LIV this year

Is there not a danger of going overboard a little

I think your idea of “competitive” is a little bit different to others

No one begrudges Bland looking after himself financially but talk of invites to all the majors is getting a little silly
 

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How many events will Bland win on LIV , he is mid table and stays just inside the top 24 - yep it’s better financially but is he really competitive there beyond making up the numbers ?

He could be topping up his finances whilst also being very competitive actually winning events - best of both worlds
The only reason anyone joins the seniors tour is to earn more money than they could elsewhere. It's not a remotely attractive option for someone playing on LIV.
 

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Winning one event proves nothing!

He’s bang average at best. One win on the ET in all those years proves that. Has he ever challenged for a LiV win?

He's comfortably one of the top 100 players in the world. Finished 3rd at Greenbrier where he may wall have challenged for a win if Bryson hadn't knocked it round 36 holes in 119 blows.
 

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Winning one event proves nothing!

He’s bang average at best. One win on the ET in all those years proves that. Has he ever challenged for a LiV win?

He’s had a few top 50’s 😂

Joking aside, I can’t see any reason for him to give up LIV. He’s much better financially and there’s not really much kudos in winning on the seniors tour. Whether he wins anything, or even challenges is a different question, he’s not a top level pro but on his good days he can mix it.
 

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Newly qualified seniors have a history of winning early on. As such it would make sense for Bland to ride the LIV train for as long as he can. As the new batch of 49 year olds turning 50 are just around the corner.

I can’t think he is anywhere near top 100 in the world however.
But he will get an invitation to the PGA championship next year, so had a chance to play his way into the other majors off the back of that.
 

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Newly qualified seniors have a history of winning early on. As such it would make sense for Bland to ride the LIV train for as long as he can. As the new batch of 49 year olds turning 50 are just around the corner.

I can’t think he is anywhere near top 100 in the world however.
But he will get an invitation to the PGA championship next year, so had a chance to play his way into the other majors off the back of that.
I'm in the camp that the senior events are good fun & entertainment but don't count for a great deal.

Thought I'd look though.
TUGR has him at 64
Data Golf at 74

In OWGR land, young Puig playing part time in OWGR sanctioned events is at 115 (was 104 a few weeks ago).
Bland is 18 spots above Puig in liv standings.

So maybe he is 'pretty near' 🤔
 

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I tend not to pay too much attention to the rankings below say the top 50, 1 very good event, or playing every week and doing averagely can get you enough points to be in the top 100 pretty easily so I’m nit sure they are a great indicator.

We can probably all agree on who the real elite players are, then probably the next 20. After that it just gets a bit mixed up to give a real accurate ranking for me in the professional game.
 

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Bland had one win(?) in 400+ starts so hardly a serial winner and clearly went to LIV purely for the cash as he's not ripping it up there either. Good to get "major" but it does nothing to justify a spot in any other major, main or senior other than any his win exempts him from
 
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