Should caddies be allowed to line their players up?

[Foxholer]

If Rule 14-2b was altered in the way I suggested, neither a caddie or a playing partner would be allowed to stand directly behind the player's line of play once he or she is in the process of taking his or her stance. Essentially players would be responsible for their own alignment, as is the case anyway for players without caddies or PP's. Caddies and PP's would still be allowed to advise on which line to take and which club to use, etc

So what if a Caddie, or Playing Partner, notices a fault that has crept into a player's swing. Should they also be prevented from pointing this out/checking on it? There's no real difference between that concept and the lining-up one!

And, as Homer and a zillion others, have posted, why do you feel the need to change Rules that merely displease you? I don't particularly like the Offside Rule in Football, the Forward Pass and Scrum Feed Rules in Rugby Union and a couple of Umpire/Referee related ones in Cricket. But that doesn't mean I want to be changed - not even the Offside one!

 

[chrisd]

not even the Offside one!

Now that I don't believe!

 

[MadAdey]

But that doesn't mean I want to be changed - not even the Offside one!

Now that I don't believe!

Most football fans I know want it changed, maybe to something like.............. If at the time of the pass being played forward you do not have 2 opposing players between you and the goal line then you are classed as interfering with play, so deemed to be offside.

Crazy rule but it might just take all the ambiguity out of it.............:thup:

 

[Foxholer]

Now that I don't believe!

Rule is fine imo. It's the interpretation (of 'interfering with play') that's the problem!

And there's sod-all chance of MadAdey's suggestion being implemented as that's a return to a very old style Rule (9 of those words are redundant) - and FIFA won't be capable of that sort of 'retreat'!

 

[delc]

So what if a Caddie, or Playing Partner, notices a fault that has crept into a player's swing. Should they also be prevented from pointing this out/checking on it? There's no real difference between that concept and the lining-up one!!

No problem with that, as long as they don't waste time lining up and looking at the player's actual swing from behind the line. It would appear that 60% of those who have so far voted in this poll don't think that caddies should be allowed to line up players from behind. A very clear majority!

 

[chrisd]

No problem with that, as long as they don't waste time lining up and looking at the player's actual swing from behind the line. It would appear that 60% of those who have so far voted in this poll don't think that caddies should be allowed to line up players from behind. A very clear majority!

Del, you seem to have overlooked the fact that, if the player is in need of his alignment being checked as he is doubtful about his ability to align properly to a given target, that he is likely to take very much longer doing the alignment unaided given that it's likely he will check and recheck his aim until he's happy.

 

[delc]

Del, you seem to have overlooked the fact that, if the player is in need of his alignment being checked as he is doubtful about his ability to align properly to a given target, that he is likely to take very much longer doing the alignment unaided given that it's likely he will check and recheck his aim until he's happy.

Nothing in my proposal to stop a caddie lining up a player with a feature as a practice exercise, as long as they don't do this when it's the player's turn to play a shot. As I said before, a decent player should know how to line himself up.

 

[chrisd]

Nothing in my proposal to stop a caddie lining up a player with a feature as a practice exercise, as long as they don't do this when it's the player's turn to play a shot. As I said before, a decent player should know how to line himself up.

I never said anything about "practice exercise" My point was about in play!

If decent players were happy that they could faultlessly line themselves up then they would, or are you saying that any player who gets his caddie to help his alignment is, because of that fact alone, NOT a decent player?

 

[delc]

I never said anything about "practice exercise" My point was about in play!

If decent players were happy that they could faultlessly line themselves up then they would, or are you saying that any player who gets his caddie to help his alignment is, because of that fact alone, NOT a decent player?

Having a caddie is an advantage over not having a caddie anyway. Some of the players on the minor tours don't have, or can't afford, caddies. Why should they be additionally disadvantaged?

 

[Robobum]

Having a caddie is an advantage over not having a caddie anyway. Some of the players on the minor tours don't have, or can't afford, caddies. Why should they be additionally disadvantaged?

Incredible persistence.

 

[chrisd]

Having a caddie is an advantage over not having a caddie anyway. Some of the players on the minor tours don't have, or can't afford, caddies. Why should they be additionally disadvantaged?

Sorry Sel, forgot that you're always right, no matter what anyone else says you manage to twist the discussion. But just to answer that point simply - anyone, on any tour, can have a caddie - if they don't want one, can't afford one or whatever are only disadvantaged by their own decisions!

 

[delc]

Sorry Sel, forgot that you're always right, no matter what anyone else says you manage to twist the discussion. But just to answer that point simply - anyone, on any tour, can have a caddie - if they don't want one, can't afford one or whatever are only disadvantaged by their own decisions!

You seem pretty convinced that you are always right yourself chrisd!

One day left to vote in this poll folks, if you haven't done so already.

 

[BTatHome]

60% can be bothered, 40% don't give a damn about it.

You seem to be making a big thing about the amount of time left to vote ....what's gonna happen when the poll finishes Derek?

 

[delc]

60% can be bothered, 40% don't give a damn about it.

You seem to be making a big thing about the amount of time left to vote ....what's gonna happen when the poll finishes Derek?

I'll report and comment on the results. What else would you expect me to do?

 

[BTatHome]

I'll report and comment on the results. What else would you expect me to do?

I wouldn't expect anything less .... can't wait to read it ! :clap:

 

[Foxholer]

No problem with that, as long as they don't waste time lining up and looking at the player's actual swing from behind the line.

So ok if the cause/fix can be done from 'Caddie View' but if the problem is their alignment, or anything else that requires a 'behind the player' view, they are knackered!

Completely ridiculous!

It would appear that 60% of those who have so far voted in this poll don't think that caddies should be allowed to line up players from behind. A very clear majority!

LDL&S again!

53 (currently) don't think they should be allowed.....out of a Forum population of thousands! Hardly a 'clear majority'!

And all because the Seniors had a slow round (probably nothing to do with lining up though) one morning!

Aargh!

I wouldn't expect anything less .... can't wait to read it ! :clap:

Definitely calling B/S on this! :rofl:

 

[Foxholer]

Sorry Sel, forgot that you're always right, no matter what anyone else says you manage to twist the discussion. But just to answer that point simply - anyone, on any tour, can have a caddie - if they don't want one, can't afford one or whatever are only disadvantaged by their own decisions!

You seem pretty convinced that you are always right yourself chrisd!

On this matter (as opposed to his typing ability, and needing quotes around 'always right'), he's absolutely spot on!

 

[chrisd]

You seem pretty convinced that you are always right yourself chrisd!



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No Del, I'm not always right but I absolutely am on that point!

 

[delc]

Poll is now closed. In round numbers: 61% of those who voted didn't think that caddies should be allowed to line up their players from behind the line of play, 20% thought that they should be allowed to do so, and 19% didn't know or didn't care.

A clear majority in favour of no caddie assistance allowed in lining up!

 

[North Mimms]

Poll is now closed. In round numbers: 61% of those who voted didn't think that caddies should be allowed to line up their players from behind the line of play, 20% thought that they should be allowed to do so, and 19% didn't know or didn't care.

A clear majority in favour of no caddie assistance allowed in lining up!

The results of another poll ....on howdidido.
Should the hole be made bigger?
No - 90%
Yes - 8%
Don't care - 2%

Despite this being a landslide result compared to the "lining up" poll, delc still persists on saying the hole is too small...