It would have been nice if you had considered the issue, rather than pursuing your vendetta against me. Don't know what I have done to upset you?
Should caddies be allowed to line their players up?
- Thread starter delc
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It would have been nice if you had considered the issue, rather than pursuing your vendetta against me. Don't know what I have done to upset you?
Crow
Crow Person
Voted "No" because as I said in the other thread, anchored putters were similarly ignored and glossed over for a while until their true role as the devil's spawn was recognised.
They were OK until players started to win majors with them! Could be a good case for banning short putters, as 99.9% of majors have been won with them. (Only kidding!).
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chrisd
Major Champion
It would have been nice if you had considered the issue, rather than pursuing your vendetta against me. Don't know what I have done to upset you?
No vendetta Del, I just cant stand posters who drone on about issues, won't listen to anyone else's points of view, never accept that there is the remotest chance that they are wrong, make claims about facts to back up their arguments that are fairly obviously flawed!
Other than that I'm sure that you are a really super guy!
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Wow, not many on here that you like then Chris........:rofl:
chrisd
Major Champion
You're not so bad in the grand scheme of things Ian!
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
That's almost nowhere near the nicest thing anyone's ever said about me...!!!:thup:
Just to transfer a point from another thread. Standing behind a player to check his alignment is really coaching, which should not be part of a bag carrier's role. Assistance as in Rule 14-2 should start from the moment the player takes his stance and the caddie should have no further involvement after that. 
BTatHome
Tour Winner
Has coaching been made illegal from a caddie?
chrisd
Major Champion
Just to transfer a point from another thread. Standing behind a player to check his alignment is really coaching, which should not be part of a bag carrier's role. Assistance as in Rule 14-2 should start from the moment the player takes his stance and the caddie should have no further involvement after that.
A caddie is not just a bag carrier. The definition in the rules book says that a caddie is "one who assists the player in accordance with the rules, which may include carrying or handling the players clubs during play"
Once again Del, you want to change the rules when there is absolutely no need to.
As for a caddie coaching, do you not think that a caddie doesn't tell his pro things during the round that are effectively coaching, he may say, for example " put the 4 iron away and play a lay up with a 9 iron" which if a fellow competitor said it, it would be against the rules.
Think that is just advice rather than coaching! Playing partners and caddies are already allowed to give advice within the rules.
chrisd
Major Champion
Think that is just advice rather than coaching! Playing partners and caddies are already allowed to give advice within the rules.
If a caddie stands behind a player and says "yes mate that is the correct line", or " you just need to move a liitle left" that is giving advice and not coaching in any sense of "coaching" as I understand the word.
:smirk:
You may think that, but I couldn't possibly comment!
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Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Assistance as in Rule 14-2 should start from the moment the player takes his stance and the caddie should have no further involvement after that.
And how do you define and control 'no further involvement.?
For example.......
No sound if I am ok
Sneeze if aiming left
Cough if aiming right.
Only difference from now is that the caddie would have to move off the line of play before the player takes his stance.
PuttPuttSteve
Assistant Pro
The only 'lining-up' caddies should do is pointing their exhausted paymaster towards he bar at the end of the round!
Fader
Tour Winner
I have absolutely no issue with the lining up thing at all, its their choice and within the rules so why not. The player still has to execute the shot.
But being properly aligned must help! I am proposing a minor change to an existing rule that would prevent caddies from lining up their players from behind the line of play.
One Planer
Global Moderator
But being properly aligned must help! I am proposing a minor change to an existing rule that would prevent caddies from lining up their players from behind the line of play.
Can I just ask.
Why are you so passionate about a rule changed that has no bearing on how you, personally, play?
As an aside.
If you were in a doubles match, can your partner line you up, in EXACTLY the way a caddie does without penalty?
TheJezster
Tour Rookie
But being properly aligned must help! I am proposing a minor change to an existing rule that would prevent caddies from lining up their players from behind the line of play.
And who exactly are you proposing this to? And how, through what medium? Why dont you just post your rule book to the R&A and say I want all these rules changed rather than choosing a new one each day or two and posting it on here (invariably without reading it first so you actually get the rule incorrect anyway).
#justsaying.....
