1) Because I dislike watching caddies lining up pro players who should be capable of doing that for themselves.
2) Yes.
Should caddies be allowed to line their players up?
- Thread starter delc
- Start date
2) Yes.
ger147
Tour Winner
I don't get how telling a pro what club to use, whether to hit it hard or soft, play a draw or a fade, fly it high or knock it down low to keep under the wind and reading lines on the green is all advice but in what direction to aim is coaching?
It's perfectly plain to me that this is all advice, is allowed under the current rules and I see no reason whatsoever to change it.
It's perfectly plain to me that this is all advice, is allowed under the current rules and I see no reason whatsoever to change it.
One Planer
Global Moderator
Why, if you were unsure, would you not want this option in a doubles situation?
With you being a former sufferer of the yips, wouldn't you take any advantage in that situation you could get?
chrisd
Major Champion
I've thought of a great idea, I don't like it when football teams that my lot play against have the ball, so I think I'll write to the FA and get the rules changed so that only my team can have the ball.
There must be loads of sporting rules that we can ask to be changed because we don't like them!
MadAdey
Money List Winner
:rofl:
MadAdey
Money List Winner
I just do not understand why you are so passionate about this one little rule, that lets be honest really does not make a difference to you or I.
So the caddy is now not allowed to stand behind a player and line him up, what is the next thing that caddies can't do because of the rules. At what point does this stop, or do caddies get to the point where they can't do anything through fear of breaking the caddying rules and costing their player penalty strokes.
There are rules in this game that I would like to see get changed, maybe something like not being able to flatten spike marks on greens as it does annoy me when you hit a great approach shot, to then be penalised because some clown has dragged his feet and left spike marks in your way.
So the caddy is now not allowed to stand behind a player and line him up, what is the next thing that caddies can't do because of the rules. At what point does this stop, or do caddies get to the point where they can't do anything through fear of breaking the caddying rules and costing their player penalty strokes.
There are rules in this game that I would like to see get changed, maybe something like not being able to flatten spike marks on greens as it does annoy me when you hit a great approach shot, to then be penalised because some clown has dragged his feet and left spike marks in your way.
North Mimms
Tour Winner
Why don't we all agree with delc, then this thread can slide off the front page?
DCB
Well-known member
This thread was started to host a poll. It is now going round in circles with the same argument as was laid out in the original thread that led to this.
Let's get back on track as a poll or this will be seen as double posting about the same topic.
DCB
Let's get back on track as a poll or this will be seen as double posting about the same topic.
DCB
Looking at the votes in so far, it would appear that the majority agree with me! I wouldn't want restrict caddieing beyond stopping them lining up their players from behind the line of play.
Colin L
Tour Winner
Sorry Del, I lost my will to live before I got round to voting. 
How would you have voted if you hadn't lost the will to live? :mmm:Sorry Del, I lost my will to live before I got round to voting.
Still looking as though the No's have it, and 5 more days to vote.
Allanxyz
Head Pro
Seems like from this small sample people would like to change the rule... However is anyone going to chain themselves to the gates of the R&A to get it changed... I doubt it. This is a forum though where people can talk about things they'd like to change or discuss what they do and don't like... I really don't understand this attitude where people seem to get uptight because someone wants to make a suggestion about the rules or would change one of them...
PS. There's probably a football forum out there where you can bring up your suggested rule change...I'm curious to hear what the reaction is...
richart
Major Champion
No, being able to line up your own shot is just part of the game. Should have been nipped in the bud straight away. Same as hinged putters. The longer it is allowed the harder it is to stop.
BTatHome
Tour Winner
59% people would like to see the rule changed, the rest don't see the need to change. Not as much of a landslide as expected.
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
I clicked no then before I pressed 'vote' I changed it to yes, reason being if a caddy noticed a misaligned stance on the fairway for an awkward shot should they not be able to highlight it to the player before a stroke is made?
Caddies really aren't standing directly next to players moving the club face left/right so I think its a bit of a non-issue really as the alignment assistance I've seen on TV is more a sanity check rather than correctional in its nature
Caddies really aren't standing directly next to players moving the club face left/right so I think its a bit of a non-issue really as the alignment assistance I've seen on TV is more a sanity check rather than correctional in its nature
chrisd
Major Champion
The problem I, and lots of the posters have had is with the fact that Del just doesn't accept any arguments that disagree with his. He posts about changing rules that he has got wrong, he mixes up threads and just makes claims that don't seem feasible, like the 25% of seniors at his club using the claw grip.
He has, as far as I know, been spoken to by the mods about his posting methods. If he toned it down a bit and engaged in a friendlier more accepting way then he wouldn't get the stick he does.
The football comment wasn't serious!
Allanxyz
Head Pro
I see it like Richart above...the longer you leave it the harder it is to change. At the minute there may be the odd sanity check and some players who are lined up more often... but who knows in the future. I read something about belly putters, whereby the actual number of players on tour using them was relatively low, but the number of US colleague players using them was above 50% as I remember.
Ok, maybe this will never become an issue as generally people starting the don't have caddies (although seeing the trailer for "the short game" maybe this is changing too...)
My question is, why do players even need a sanity check... and if they don't get one and miss the target then they can work on it and improve the next time.
Allanxyz
Head Pro
To be fair... I don't often see people on here changing their opinions based on others arguements... it's generally a case of repeatedly posting rebuttles to arguements to wear the other person out! Ok, maybe there is a clash but it seems people are a bit too willing to pounce when it comes to Delc, I didn't see anyone accepting his arguements in a nice way when it came to making the hole larger. Having said that I'm not on the forum that often so don't see the full picture I have to admit.
As for the 25% of seniors, in my opinion you have to accept it, it might not seem feasible to you, but the alternative is calling him a lier and I think that would be out of order unless you know the facts yourself.
I know the football comment wasn't serious!! Just making the point that a forum is a place for bringing up these questions about rules etc.
I didn't bring the claw grip into the argument, that was rickg! And I am prepared to defend my views against the more fatuous arguments against, such as your football analogy. Any rules have to be fair to both teams and all players, whatever the sport!
