Should a Supplimentary be considered to be a Qualifying Competition??

[2blue]

OK.…. so a Supp can help you regain 'C' status & affects your H/cap.... BUT, should it count towards the 3 Q-Comps that most Clubs require before a member can win Captain's Day or other 'Majors'... Board Comps etc.
How would your Club treat the situation??

 

[Fish]

OK.…. so a Supp can help you regain 'C' status & affects your H/cap.... BUT, should it count towards the 3 Q-Comps that most Clubs require before a member can win Captain's Day or other 'Majors'... Board Compsb etc.
How would your Club treat the situation??

It does at ours, we had a member who’s handicap lapsed last year, he’s put in 3 cards early this year and is now playing in team events and pairs, I’m confident he won’t play in any other qualifiers though, 3’s usually his limit 😡

 

[mikejohnchapman]

Personally don't think so at present.

I presume the rule at the club says "3 qualifying scores" = this isn't one (IMO)

 

[Imurg]

Yes.
It's the same as a qualifier, in so far as it affects your handicap.
I could play a maximum of 3 this year - lost the May one to too many temps, played June, missed July ( holiday), missing August (Robin's bash), trying to keep September and October free....

 

[duncan mackie]

It depends on the wording of the conditions of competition.

We don't require 3 Q comps, we require 3 competitions - the purpose of the rule being that people who wish to enter Trophy competitions are expected to participate in club events rather than anything to do with a misguided belief that handicaps are any more accurate if someone has played more comps (or put in more cards) ie handicapping is a seperate matter!

 

[PhilTheFragger]

Yes as long as you have a current valid handicap, you should be eligible for the other competitions.
It shouldn’t matter if your handicap is current through qualifying comps or supplementary cards.

As Imurg has said we only get 6 comps a year as 5 day members
Missed May as recovering from surgery, played June and July, missing August, pretty sure Sept clashes with a society day, so October completes my 3 , but to be sure I’ll stick in a few supps too

Another gripe is that as 5 day members, if we win our division we aren’t allowed into the relevant board comp, held on a weekend

So there is no point entering comps apart from a chance of winning the voucher, it’s cheaper to just put in supp cards

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Our rules say members have to play three competitions (supplementals don't count) to qualify for all honour board events. Players can obviously put supplementary cards in to get a "c" status but must have the three competitive cards as well. Think it harks back to a new member coming in and playing an honour board event after getting the handicap. Possibly sour grapes by the club but the guy's handicap hadn't caught up with his actual ability

 

[Imurg]

Our rules say members have to play three competitions (supplementals don't count) to qualify for all honour board events. Players can obviously put supplementary cards in to get a "c" status but must have the three competitive cards as well. Think it harks back to a new member coming in and playing an honour board event after getting the handicap. Possibly sour grapes by the club but the guy's handicap hadn't caught up with his actual ability

Isn't that a fault in the system rather than the fault of the player..?

 

[rulefan]

Personally don't think so at present.

I presume the rule at the club says "3 qualifying scores" = this isn't one (IMO)

A Supplementary Score is a Qualifying Score as defined.

But entry for specific competitions is up to the club. Preferably, the club should allow the player to play for handicap purposes but not to win prizes.

 

[rulie]

A Supplementary Score is a Qualifying Score as defined.

But entry for specific competitions is up to the club. Preferably, the club should allow the player to play for handicap purposes but not to win prizes.

And why would he do that?

 

[rulefan]

[/B]And why would he do that?

He may wish to play in a competition environment with his mates and compete where CSS may have an effect. Rather than just playing against the course he would be competing and showing his ability against the field.

Not unlike non-scratch players entering the (gross) Club Championship.

 

[jim8flog]

We only have one comp that requires 3 comps to be played in before the actual comp and those 3 must be seniors comps so even playing in normal club comps would not count.

If we had the requirement for a club comp I am 99.9% sure we would not accept supplementaries (but it is not just my decision).

 

[rulefan]

Our ladies had a rule (predating 'active' or 'competition' status) saying that in order to play in the (early season) Lady Captain's Trophy, a minimum of 3 competitions had to have been played.
They modified the requirement this year to simply say they must have a 'c' status handicap.

 

[woofers]

But entry for specific competitions is up to the club. Preferably, the club should allow the player to play for handicap purposes but not to win prizes.

And presumably at a reduced or nil entry fee, i.e not contributing to the prize fund for which he is ineligible ?

 

[rulefan]

And presumably at a reduced or nil entry fee, i.e not contributing to the prize fund for which he is ineligible ?

My club charges for any handicap qualifying score and extra for any prize participation.
The argument for the former is that all competition handicap systems administration is done by the pro so he gets a cut. In addition all players wanting a handicap make a contribution to the cost of the software.

 

[Colin L]

What is meant by a competition handicap if you set up additional hurdles before allowing a member to play in a competition?

 

[Colin L]

What is meant by a competition handicap if you set up additional hurdles before allowing a member to play in a competition?

 

[jim8flog]

What is meant by a competition handicap if you set up additional hurdles before allowing a member to play in a competition?

There can be other hurdles to play in a competition e.g. a minimum handicap. Our Club scratch Championship has a maximum handicap of 9.4 to enter.

 

[Colin L]

There can be other hurdles to play in a competition e.g. a minimum handicap. Our Club scratch Championship has a maximum handicap of 9.4 to enter.

Not quite the same thing as making a spurious distinction between a competition handicap gained/maintained one way as opposed to another when CONGU makes no such distinction.

 

[Old Skier]

No logical reason to not allow supps for board comps. There was me thinking committee's where trying to encourage people to play golf and join in, there may be a number of reasons that members cannot play in actual qualifiers..