chrisd
Major Champion
My understanding is that "reduction only" comps are not permitted as a general rule
Should this be a qualifying Comp?
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My understanding is that "reduction only" comps are not permitted as a general rule
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
You can have pick and place on closely mown areas but not pick and place through the green..ie anywhere including the rough.
Cheers, so pick & place on closely mowed areas and it can still be a full qualifying comp.
Is there a specific number of temps that can be allowed, or is it simply as long as it's still within the measured course it doesn't matter.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
That I'm not certain of....I'm sure someone will be though.
We had a comp last year where "P&P" was allowed in the rough as it was pretty soggy. Initially it went down as a qualifier until I pointed out the rule...our low handicapper shot a gross 63(-7) and had a hefty cut rescinded.....
3offTheTee
Tour Rookie
If there are more than 2 temps it cannot be a qualifier nor if >50% of bunkers are out of use.
Going back to my original post 'our guru' said that it was a none qualifying because it was a rolling competition and the result could not be determined until the end of the month.
This I found difficult as it was a measured course, no temps. all bunkers in play no preferred lies.
The main point he was adamant about was the 'rolling comp' which I found difficult to understand
Colin L
Tour Winner
Can you clarify the format of your Turkey Trot competition, please?
If our club (which runs qualifiers throughout the year) wishes to run a non-qualifying comp, it either puts a restriction on the number of clubs players can carry to less than 14, or reduces the length of the course to below its minimum allowable measured length. Simples!
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Foxholer
Blackballed
I missed this small but important point in my earlier reply!
Presumably, that means that rounds can be played at any time during the month, with the winner being determined at the end of the month.
I can certainly understand why that wouldn't be a qualifier - as folk could pick the particular day they wanted to play too easily - having a choice of 30!
And for some reason, I thought that up to 3 temporary greens were allowed.
Also worth noting that while P&P through the green would make it NQ, I believe applying the recommended 'Plugged in the Rough' LR would still allow it to be a qualifier.
3offTheTee
Tour Rookie
Colin
Yesterday it was a Stableford full handicap comp played off yellow tees, not a shortened course, PAR 71 SSS71. Booking was via BRS with approximately 60 playing. Comp closed @ 5 p.m Friday. No temp greens, no preferred lies BUT there will be preferred lies from tomorrow, closely mown areas initially, dependant upon weather.
Cost initially £3 and then if we play again £1 when there could be preferred lies through the green dependant upon weather. The winner(s) will be determined with the best score at the end of November.
Hope this helps
rulefan
Tour Winner
The UHS is based on the following fundamental premises:
• Every golf club or handicapping authority will, whenever possible run stroke play competitions as
qualifying competitions, calculate a Competition Scratch Score and make all handicap adjustments
strictly in accordance with the system.
It is against the spirit and intent of the system to adjust the terms and conditions of a competition
deliberately, so that it is rendered non-qualifying on a technicality.
IMO, subject to the words in bold allowing for course and weather conditions, providing the club give players sufficient opportunities to play qualifying rounds they have no specific obligation to make every 'eligible' round a qualifier. However, they may not declare a competition to be Reduction Only (either before or after the competition). Only the software can make that determination.
• Every golf club or handicapping authority will, whenever possible run stroke play competitions as
qualifying competitions, calculate a Competition Scratch Score and make all handicap adjustments
strictly in accordance with the system.
It is against the spirit and intent of the system to adjust the terms and conditions of a competition
deliberately, so that it is rendered non-qualifying on a technicality.
IMO, subject to the words in bold allowing for course and weather conditions, providing the club give players sufficient opportunities to play qualifying rounds they have no specific obligation to make every 'eligible' round a qualifier. However, they may not declare a competition to be Reduction Only (either before or after the competition). Only the software can make that determination.
Crow
Crow Person
This is what I'd have thought was the case, otherwise would you have things like Pro-Shop competitions being qualifiers?
We have a Pro-Shop Stableford pretty much every free Saturday over the summer but they're never qualifiers.
rulefan
Tour Winner
That doesn't seem to fit the 'whenever possible' condition though.
rosecott
Money List Winner
I presume that the Pro-Shop Stableford competitions are not official competitions organised by the committee but, rather, glorified roll-ups.
Crow
Crow Person
That's why I queried it, I'm sure my course is not alone in having this though, is it something that needs to be addressed?
They've been run by the Pro for years to give a bit of friendly competition on an otherwise quiet day, usually a reasonable entry of 30 or 40.
Crow
Crow Person
That's right.
3offTheTee
Tour Rookie
We have a Pro's Competition individual Stableford during the winter months but it is an Open.
Should this be a qualifying comp in view of the previous comments. It is not organised by The Club and in the circumstances I expect the answer to be none qualifying
Should this be a qualifying comp in view of the previous comments. It is not organised by The Club and in the circumstances I expect the answer to be none qualifying
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Deleted member 15344
Guest
Sounds like a swindle or roll up looked after by the Pro Shop but when you say it's an Open does that mean people can book up to play from other clubs ?
3offTheTee
Tour Rookie
Correct Phil
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Deleted member 15344
Guest
And it's singles as opposed to pairs ?
Do people need to have a HC cert or book in with their CDH ?
Does seem like it should be a HC qualifier provided the course fits the remit
3offTheTee
Tour Rookie
Course covers everything required at present. Winners need H/ C
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