Shamima Begum - In or Out

[Tashyboy]

My last comment was on page 2, it’s been a busy day. Suffice to say we are nearly on page 11. Wonder how many read my link on Wikipedia. Enlightening oneself reading that would be better time spent than discussing whether it is political, Cherie Blair or fragger for prime minister.
What I do find interesting is her not having any citizenship. She choose to join a State, the ISIS state. As far as I am aware it supersedes any countries nationality. Her choice. Her husband wanted both him and her to be repatriated into Holland. They have said that’s not happening. We are not the only country that does not want back terrorists.

 

[spongebob59]

Richard Madeley on GMB ?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1405057516548075521

 

[harpo_72]

Richard Madeley on GMB ?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1405057516548075521

He has a point and we did not wipe out the offspring of the black shirts either …
Hitler always said I don’t need you I need the children..

 

[SocketRocket]

He has a point and we did not wipe out the offspring of the black shirts either …
Hitler always said I don’t need you I need the children..

I'm not aware of anyone wiping her out either.

 

[IanM]

I'm not aware of anyone wiping her out either.

I guess that's ok then.

 

[Foxholer]

She is a British citizen. It is illegal under international law to make someone stateless.

She is also, apparently, a Bangladeshi citizen, so would not be stateless.
That (important) aspect of the case - which was never part of the appeals process - at least as far as I've seen, but could be wrong - this appeal (to the SC) was on the basis of whether the government, via a Minister, had the right to do what it did and the SC clearly believed that it did! Whether it was the 'right' thing to do is beside the point, as this process has solely been about whether the Government's action was 'lawful', not about whether it was 'right'!

 

[GuyInLyon]

She is also, apparently, a Bangladeshi citizen, so would not be stateless.

Bangladesh has repeatedly said that she is not a Bangladeshi citizen, so she would be stateless.

 

[Hobbit]

Bangladesh has repeatedly said that she is not a Bangladeshi citizen, so she would be stateless.

See post #29. I also posted subsequent to that with more detail on Bangladeshi law. If she wants to fight being stateless, maybe her argument is also with Bangladesh. The U.K. didn’t make her stateless, Bangladesh did.

 

[Foxholer]

Bangladesh has repeatedly said that she is not a Bangladeshi citizen, so she would be stateless.

If that really was the case, then I'm certain that argument would have been used during the legal process!
As it wasn't, then I believe it's legitimate to presume that she IS (entitled to be) a Bangladeshi citizen, so would not be stateless!

 

[SocketRocket]

Bangladesh has repeatedly said that she is not a Bangladeshi citizen, so she would be stateless.

Just because they say it doesn't mean it's correct.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....-begum-insists-just-dumb-kid-joined-isil/amp/

She certainly seems to be changing or is it just growing up

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Had Bangladesh got in first then we could not have stripped her citizenship. Fast moving from the UK govt.

 

[SocketRocket]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....-begum-insists-just-dumb-kid-joined-isil/amp/

She certainly seems to be changing or is it just growing up

Or wising up.

 

[SocketRocket]

I guess that's ok then.

Possibly

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Or wising up.

All part of growing is it not, part of maturing into an adult and realising your mistakes you made as a child

 

[SocketRocket]

All part of growing is it not, part of maturing into an adult and realising your mistakes you made as a child

Yes, if that's the real objective. I have a strong suspicion in this case it's more a matter of saying anything to get you off the hook.

 

[OntheteeGavin]

All part of growing is it not, part of maturing into an adult and realising your mistakes you made as a child

At her age my mistake was liking Bros. Not travelling to a war zone...

 

[Blue in Munich]

At her age my mistake was liking Bros. Not travelling to a war zone...

Liking Bros at any age is a mistake.

 

[Dando]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....-begum-insists-just-dumb-kid-joined-isil/amp/

She certainly seems to be changing or is it just growing up

Do you claim your winnings for the Nigerian lottery?

 

[Hobbit]

I wonder if she would be so desperate if Isis had won? Just asking…