Scottish v English football

[shewy]

Right several points,
1 my team won the cup at the weekend!!!!!
2 at least 2 Scottish teams have more European trophies than most of the epl teams.
3 take the foreign players out of the epl and the quality would be mince
4 if the old firm joined the epl then they would be top 4 within a few seasons as they are much bigger clubs than all bar 2 teams in the epl.
5 the lack of funds in Scotland can only be good for the national team,they have to promote from within now instead of buying mediocre foreign players

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Right several points,
1 my team won the cup at the weekend!!!!!
2 at least 2 Scottish teams have more European trophies than most of the epl teams.
3 take the foreign players out of the epl and the quality would be mince
4 if the old firm joined the epl then they would be top 4 within a few seasons as they are much bigger clubs than all bar 2 teams in the epl.
5 the lack of funds in Scotland can only be good for the national team,they have to promote from within now instead of buying mediocre foreign players

Much bigger than all bar 2 ? Which two and in what way are they bigger ?

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Fulham v Motherwell........close game I would say.
Not as close as if Airbus UK were playing Fulham..

Getaway......Forres Mechanics would take Airbus UK apart.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Right several points,
1 my team won the cup at the weekend!!!!!
2 at least 2 Scottish teams have more European trophies than most of the epl teams.
3 take the foreign players out of the epl and the quality would be mince
4 if the old firm joined the epl then they would be top 4 within a few seasons as they are much bigger clubs than all bar 2 teams in the epl.
5 the lack of funds in Scotland can only be good for the national team,they have to promote from within now instead of buying mediocre foreign players

But the foreign players are in the EPL. I'm pretty sure if you took foreign players out of both the EPL & the SPL,the EPL would still be much better.
And if the Old firm teams joined the EPL they would have to pay some seriously high wages to attract top players as I can't see the likes of Suarez,Hazard,Rooney...., really wanting to move to Scotland. (No offence)

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Right several points,
1 my team won the cup at the weekend!!!!!
2 at least 2 Scottish teams have more European trophies than most of the epl teams.
3 take the foreign players out of the epl and the quality would be mince
4 if the old firm joined the epl then they would be top 4 within a few seasons as they are much bigger clubs than all bar 2 teams in the epl.
5 the lack of funds in Scotland can only be good for the national team,they have to promote from within now instead of buying mediocre foreign players

1 The quality of the match was terrible
2 Five English clubs have won the European Cup/Champions League 12 times between them
3 Take the foreign players out of any of the leagues in Europe and the standards would drop
4 Purely hypothetical as it is never going to happen
5 If you have a narrow base then the peak will not be too high

 

[Adi2Dassler]

Not sure,I lost interest in that diddy cup.

Move it to CP with a split of 20k for Arabs and 40k for them.............still Utd would moan then hand back at least 6k tickets.

Highlights the fact that nowhere outside of Glasgow is suitable to host such games but there is no need for any large stadiums outside of these three in Glasgow.

Move it to Manchester.............the filth will go down well there I am sure....oh no,haud on.

So why are your team playing Champs League qualifiers at Murrayfield?I get your point but it has a flaw.

 

[ger147]

So why are your team playing Champs League qualifiers at Murrayfield?I get your point but it has a flaw.

A one off - Celtic Park not available, Hampden not available and there's no way the Celtic fans would stand for Celtic paying a fee to use Ibrox.

 

[Dodger]

So why are your team playing Champs League qualifiers at Murrayfield?I get your point but it has a flaw.

Because it is the only stadium in Scotland left capable of housing the attendance we will command.

The 3 Glasgow stadiums are tied up for use for the Commonwealth Games so it is left to a Rugby Stadium to fill the gap as, as I have already stated, there are no stadiums outside these 3 capable of holding more than 20k.

A Rugby one yes,but the SFA don't wish the money to go to the egg chasers for housing their flagship cup.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

How big are the grounds at the Dundee teams and Pittodrie ?

 

[Dodger]

How big are the grounds at the Dundee teams and Pittodrie ?

Aberdeen is around the 20k mark and Tannadice 14k I think from memory.

Both are not the best although I like Utd's for atmosphere when full although not as good as a packed Tynie for noise.

 

[shewy]

That leaves 15 teams in the el who have won nowt then!
I agree it was a poor game, but I've seen some good games this season, equally I've seen poor games in the el and some crackers.my point being it's not all doom and gloom

Oh btw Liverpool and man u, and by fan base

 

[stevek1969]

Aberdeen is around the 20k mark and Tannadice 14k I think from memory.

Both are not the best although I like Utd's for atmosphere when full although not as good as a packed Tynie for noise.

The Stadium Of Light or the home of Dundee FC holds 12000 and wouldn't pass UEFA safety regs.

 

[smange]

How big are the grounds at the Dundee teams and Pittodrie ?

Tannadice -14209
Dens Park - 11500
Pittodrie - 22199

 

[Deleted member 18588]

That leaves 15 teams in the el who have won nowt then!
I agree it was a poor game, but I've seen some good games this season, equally I've seen poor games in the el and some crackers.my point being it's not all doom and gloom

Oh btw Liverpool and man u, and by fan base

Wrong I am afraid. I only referred to the premier competition and excluded Cup Winners' Cup, UEFA Cup etc; had I not then at least a further three teams have won trophies. Significantly more than Scottish teams have managed.

As for standard of games I suppose it is a case of what you are used to and will accept.

Fan base can never be accurately measured although I do not dispute that Rangers and Celtic are big clubs. However, attendances can and these would suggest that there are other English clubs that should be included within the equation.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

That leaves 15 teams in the el who have won nowt then!
I agree it was a poor game, but I've seen some good games this season, equally I've seen poor games in the el and some crackers.my point being it's not all doom and gloom

Oh btw Liverpool and man u, and by fan base

Newcastle have a massive fanbase - they aren't in regular top 4

I would expect the clubs to fight alongside Everton for Europa Lge spots regulary

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

Fulham v Motherwell........close game I would say.

I appreciate many football 'fans' living in SE England may never have heard of Motherwell.

Have you heard of every football team from Finland, or from the second/third French divisions Doon? Scotland was compared to them above, so therefore I would expect such an indepth knowledge, otherwise how can you judge those who don't know Scottish leagues?

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Have you heard of every football team from Finland, or from the second/third French divisions Doon? Scotland was compared to them above, so therefore I would expect such an indepth knowledge, otherwise how can you judge those who don't know Scottish leagues?

Many of those 'fans' are always very quick to make critical posts about Scots football.
Are you now saying they have no knowledge to back up their posts.

 

[Hacker Khan]

Chaps keep this civil.

Be warned.

If I swear and use abusive language, will that ensure that this thread is closed to stop the endless tedious conversations about 'big clubs' and the merits of English V Scottish football?

If so then shut *** **** u* you ******** bunch of ******* ********s

 

[smange]

If I swear and use abusive language, will that ensure that this thread is closed to stop the endless tedious conversations about 'big clubs' and the merits of English V Scottish football?

If so then shut *** **** u* you ******** bunch of ******* ********s

The clue to the thread is in the title.

If you are so fed up and bored of these threads why bother opening the thread and even more so why go to the bother of posting on the thread?

It's simple really, if you don't want to read about certain subjects don't open the thread but there are, as has been shown so far some people who can and want to discuss these things.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

The decision to play Aberdeen v Saints at CP baffles everyone

Except Aberdeen fans who think they'll bring 40k to the match. Saints might bring 5k.