Scottish v English football

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The Scottish national side doing well and some talented youngsters coming through. The PL is over hyped and I'd rather watch the Spanish or Bundesliga. Technically better players and games seem far more open and entertaining. Sadly the state of the national game is in decline and England will never be as good as the media thinks it should be. The golden goose will die sooner or later and what then?

Fulham will be promoted back to the PL. :whoo:
 

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I'm a Dunfermline Athletic supporter and followed them home and away for 20 years before moving to Ireland and grew up watching Scottish football and I love it, it may not be the best technically or get the biggest crowds but you know what? Watching two teams go at each other blood and thunder excites me way more than watching the tippy-tappy so called technically brilliant style of Barcelona, which bores me to tears.

Wha's Like Us?

That sums up what's both good and bad about SPL - and the same really applies to EPL as well imo.

SPL is 120% Commitment 75% Skill/Quality. Played at 110 mph with the skills for 90! Having watched the highlights of the SLC, it didn't look as bad as CMAC implied - but that was only 7 mins, covering 120+ mins of 'Football'!

EPL is 100% Commitment and 80+% Skill/Quality, but there are way more 'quality' teams in EPL than any other League in the world.

Germany really only has 1 team! Spain 2 Portugal 3 maybe? (don't get to see much). Stopped watching Italian Football 20 years ago as it was boring. Don't get to see much South American stuff, but 1 or 2 Clubs seem to dominate in both Brazil and Argentina.

At its best, Spanish is the style I enjoy watching most - high commitment; high skill level - just far too much acting! 15 mins Sin Bin for Diving!
 

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The killer question is.....if the EPL is so good why is Steven Whittaker a participating player.

HO! Whittaker was a tidy right back for the cabbage.

Anyway, Scottish football is what it is, poorly funded in a small country with health issues in a society where everything is immediate and kids have huge choices compared to when I was growing up.Set against a backdrop for comparison of English,German,Spanish football, it's always going to look bad.

But I love it.In the last week I've followed my team to Inverness and Maryhill, on Saturday I'll be in Perth.Those of us who commit our finances know the level of football, and whilst we'd like it to be better, we'll still continue to watch the teams of our dads.It's always good for someone to let us know from the comfort of their couch what they think,though.

Last time I looked, the combined debt of football clubs in England was creeping towards £2 Billion, but don't concentrate on that, just swallow the wee pill supplied by SKY and slag off another league instead.
 

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HO! Whittaker was a tidy right back for the cabbage.

Anyway, Scottish football is what it is, poorly funded in a small country with health issues in a society where everything is immediate and kids have huge choices compared to when I was growing up.Set against a backdrop for comparison of English,German,Spanish football, it's always going to look bad.

But I love it.In the last week I've followed my team to Inverness and Maryhill, on Saturday I'll be in Perth.Those of us who commit our finances know the level of football, and whilst we'd like it to be better, we'll still continue to watch the teams of our dads.It's always good for someone to let us know from the comfort of their couch what they think,though.

Last time I looked, the combined debt of football clubs in England was creeping towards £2 Billion, but don't concentrate on that, just swallow the wee pill supplied by SKY and slag off another league instead.

if it was the teams of our dads it would be far better and entertaining:rolleyes:

as for the comfort of a couch, does that mean an opinion isn't valid? I'm sure you have 'commented' on many games you haven't attended or are you omnipresent :lol: just a joke in case its not taken that way

Personally I have been to many many games at all levels..including the excellent Glasgow City FC that I personally contribute funds to and not by buying a ticket.
p.s I don't have sky
 
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Would say it wouldn't be close at all - maybe Motherwell vs a Championship team or even Lge 1.
 

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but there are way more 'quality' teams in EPL than any other League in the world.

Germany really only has 1 team! Spain 2 Portugal 3 maybe? (don't get to see much). Stopped watching Italian Football 20 years ago as it was boring. Don't get to see much South American stuff, but 1 or 2 Clubs seem to dominate in both Brazil and Argentina.

Really? As there seemed to be 2 German teams in the champions league final last year. And none from England even got to the quarter finals I don't think. And we are hardly setting it alight this year either.

The fact that the league is close this year is less an indication of quality in depth but I'd say more of a weakening of the traditional stronger teams who now struggle to compete with the best (or in Man Us case, most) teams in Europe.
 

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That sums up what's both good and bad about SPL - and the same really applies to EPL as well imo.

SPL is 120% Commitment 75% Skill/Quality. Played at 110 mph with the skills for 90! Having watched the highlights of the SLC, it didn't look as bad as CMAC implied - but that was only 7 mins, covering 120+ mins of 'Football'!

EPL is 100% Commitment and 80+% Skill/Quality, but there are way more 'quality' teams in EPL than any other League in the world.

Germany really only has 1 team! Spain 2 Portugal 3 maybe? (don't get to see much). Stopped watching Italian Football 20 years ago as it was boring. Don't get to see much South American stuff, but 1 or 2 Clubs seem to dominate in both Brazil and Argentina.

At its best, Spanish is the style I enjoy watching most - high commitment; high skill level - just far too much acting! 15 mins Sin Bin for Diving!

5 different clubs have won the Bundesliga over the last 10 seasons so it's hardly accurate to state Germany only really has 1 team.
 
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Are there any English teams left in the CL?

At the moment yes there are two and btw Fulham v Motherwell would not be close, certainly not throughout a season.

The majority of SPL teams would struggle in The Championship and I take no pleasure in saying that as I grew up in an era when Scottish clubs were on a par with their English counterparts.
 

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Further to my earlier post can I add that yes I enjoy watching Scottish football but I have to add do not enjoy or believe some of the incredible decisions that are made by the powers that be running our game.

Their latest masterstroke is that The Rangers will play their Scottish Cup Semi Final at their own ground :confused:

The "neutral venue" was decided at the start of the season, which is fair enough as Hampden is undergoing some work and the final will be played at Celtic Park but why can't they play their semi at Celtic park to at least give some amount of neutrality to the fixture?

To make it more unbelievable (except for those of us who follow scottish football and are never really shocked at decisions made by the governing bodies), Dundee United are only getting 13000 tickets, approximately a quarter of the capacity. So not only are Dundee United playing a semi final tie at the home ground of their opponents their fans will be outnumbered 3/1 and have asked for it to be switched but have been told no.

So much for neutral :rolleyes:

The cynics amongst us may think that maybe the SFA are so intent on keeping it there to ensure The Rangers get a large chunk of the proceeds from the match for hosting it in an attempt to ensure they are still around long enough for their knight in shining armour to come and save them from another bout of administration, thankfully I'm not that cynical :whistle: :p
 

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Further to my earlier post can I add that yes I enjoy watching Scottish football but I have to add do not enjoy or believe some of the incredible decisions that are made by the powers that be running our game.

Their latest masterstroke is that The Rangers will play their Scottish Cup Semi Final at their own ground :confused:

The "neutral venue" was decided at the start of the season, which is fair enough as Hampden is undergoing some work and the final will be played at Celtic Park but why can't they play their semi at Celtic park to at least give some amount of neutrality to the fixture?

To make it more unbelievable (except for those of us who follow scottish football and are never really shocked at decisions made by the governing bodies), Dundee United are only getting 13000 tickets, approximately a quarter of the capacity. So not only are Dundee United playing a semi final tie at the home ground of their opponents their fans will be outnumbered 3/1 and have asked for it to be switched but have been told no.

So much for neutral :rolleyes:

The cynics amongst us may think that maybe the SFA are so intent on keeping it there to ensure The Rangers get a large chunk of the proceeds from the match for hosting it in an attempt to ensure they are still around long enough for their knight in shining armour to come and save them from another bout of administration, thankfully I'm not that cynical :whistle: :p

With regards the allocation do you honestly think it should be a 50/50 split?

Try it, go on, try it. Be great to see a crowd of sub 40k with 12k spares or worse still a crowd of 45k with 6k bears sitting in the wrong end..............that cannot be good for anyone.

I am all for going with a 50/50 split of say 24k each but Utd would end up handing back at least 10k worth of tickets.

The decision to play Aberdeen v Saints at CP baffles everyone but as we know it is the SFA we are talking about and they have been know to bend over backwards for the filth on many occasions.

The SFA is corrupt to the core and has been for years.
 

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With regards the allocation do you honestly think it should be a 50/50 split?

Try it, go on, try it. Be great to see a crowd of sub 40k with 12k spares or worse still a crowd of 45k with 6k bears sitting in the wrong end..............that cannot be good for anyone.

I am all for going with a 50/50 split of say 24k each but Utd would end up handing back at least 10k worth of tickets.

The decision to play Aberdeen v Saints at CP baffles everyone but as we know it is the SFA we are talking about and they have been know to bend over backwards for the filth on many occasions.

The SFA is corrupt to the core and has been for years.

I agree that we don't want to see a lot of empty seats but United should have at least been given a chance to sell half the allocation and any unsold tickets then given to The Rangers. The make up of Ibrox stadium would have made that very easy to do. It's still nearly four weeks until the game so no big panic trying to punt the tickets quickly.

You and I both know that United were never going to sell 25000 tickets but at least it would have given them and their supporters a chance to get some amount of neutrality in the game and if they don't sell out they can't complain.

Is it not both semis at Ibrox over the two days and the final at Celtic Park?
 

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I agree that we don't want to see a lot of empty seats but United should have at least been given a chance to sell half the allocation and any unsold tickets then given to The Rangers. The make up of Ibrox stadium would have made that very easy to do. It's still nearly four weeks until the game so no big panic trying to punt the tickets quickly.

You and I both know that United were never going to sell 25000 tickets but at least it would have given them and their supporters a chance to get some amount of neutrality in the game and if they don't sell out they can't complain.

Is it not both semis at Ibrox over the two days and the final at Celtic Park?


Not sure,I lost interest in that diddy cup.

Move it to CP with a split of 20k for Arabs and 40k for them.............still Utd would moan then hand back at least 6k tickets.

Highlights the fact that nowhere outside of Glasgow is suitable to host such games but there is no need for any large stadiums outside of these three in Glasgow.

Move it to Manchester.............the filth will go down well there I am sure....oh no,haud on.
 

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Think you are being a bit unfair on fc zombie of rangers......As many of there orcs should get the chance to see their team compete in their first ever scottish cup semi final.
 
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