Scottish independence

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Woman on Radio Scotland this morning says

When I listen to the No's, it makes me want to vote Yes and when I listen to the Yes's I want to vote NO.

Politicians ehh!

Taking a detached and impartial view the Yes campaign are vague about risks and outcomes associated with changes following a YES; BT are vague about the changes that might or will happen (both further devolved powers and Wesminster changes) following a NO

 

[ger147]

Getting back on topic, I'm not really sure what will happen to the Open if the Scots vote for independence but I'm sure it'll be top of the list of topics to be discussed if/when it happens.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Or more importantly, what will happen to the National Lottery.

 

[drawboy]

I cannot believe this is being discussed it isn't important to us in England just get yourselves off and be done with it, job done, good luck in the future.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I cannot believe this is being discussed it isn't important to us in England just get yourselves off and be done with it, job done, good luck in the future.

You seem to be missing the point that 74% of Scots don't want it.

Imagine if it was 26% of English folk wanted to leave the European Council if that makes it easier.

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

You seem to be missing the point that 74% of Scots don't want it.

Imagine if it was 26% of English folk wanted to leave the European Council if that makes it easier.

Just my own random mind, but IF Scotland do gain independence, does anyone think it will affect Northern Ireland? Is it just me thinking that certain factions over there might push even harder for their own seperation? Or not?

 

[Jdb2005]

Say no to independance

 

[Dodger]

Gentleman , maybe this is one you just agree to disagree on

Either way can we calm down please

Thanks

I am struggling to see what warrants this Phil.

All I can see are two people passionately fighting their corner and to be honest it seems that anyone willing to put their head above the parapet and fight the 'Yes' corner get's kicked down as some sort of mad man that needs the help of a straight jacket.......on the other side anyone who fights the 'No' corner also gets kicked down too but to a lesser extent.

Politics eh?

We have a further year to go so you Mods best get prepared......:thup:

 

[williamalex1]

Or more importantly, what will happen to the National Lottery.

I DON'T GIVE A JOT ABOUT THE LOTTERY, WHEN THE PRICE DOUBLES COME OCTOBER I'M STOPPING FOR GOOD, AND SO IS THE SYNDICATE IVE BEEN IN SINCE THE FIRST DRAW. PURE GREED.:angry:

 

[FairwayDodger]

I DON'T GIVE A JOT ABOUT THE LOTTERY, WHEN THE PRICE DOUBLES COME OCTOBER I'M STOPPING FOR GOOD, AND SO IS THE SYNDICATE IVE BEEN IN SINCE THE FIRST DRAW. PURE GREED.:angry:

Well that increases my chances of winning!






(Statistics never were my strong point.....)

 

[williamalex1]

Well that increases my chances of winning!






(Statistics never were my strong point.....)

Best of luck FD, I hope you remember who increased your odds.:thup:

 

[FairwayDodger]

Best of luck FD, I hope you remember who increased your odds.:thup:

I do agree with you though - sheer greed.

But.... I need to win!!!

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I am struggling to see what warrants this Phil.

All I can see are two people passionately fighting their corner and to be honest it seems that anyone willing to put their head above the parapet and fight the 'Yes' corner get's kicked down as some sort of mad man that needs the help of a straight jacket.......on the other side anyone who fights the 'No' corner also gets kicked down too but to a lesser extent.

Politics eh?

We have a further year to go so you Mods best get prepared......:thup:

Thanks for the words of encouragement Sir

As it happens I haven't been arguing one way or the other - just raising questions that I think Scots (sorry - voters in Scotland) need to answer or have answered. BT are rightly demanding answers from the YES campaign about RISKS that BT have come up with - and at the same time BT are being less than forthcoming about Scotland after a NO.

At the moment it doesn't seem that either side is willing or able to tell the complete story on life after referendum. But this doesn't surprise me as I'm thinking that actually it is just NOT POSSIBLE for either YES or BT campaigns to be absolutely clear about life after the referendum - YES or NO. If the electors want certainty of that then they are going to be disappointed.

It strikes me that BT have the easier job as they stand for the status quo - but of course a NO vote will not mean the current situation is maintained - maybe in the short term but not for good.

I have heard (today and many times) a BT campaigner state that Scotland can have the best of both worlds - nice idea - but the English just will not stand for that and Scots better believe it. Note - I believe I am qualified to make this observation as I live in England (did you know that) and have done for 30yrs - so I know how a lot of how the English think - which is more than Scots in Scotland do. Because of that I don't believe that NO equates to No Change - but I don't know what it does equate to and BT don't seem keen on telling the voters.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I am struggling to see what warrants this Phil.

All I can see are two people passionately fighting their corner and to be honest it seems that anyone willing to put their head above the parapet and fight the 'Yes' corner get's kicked down as some sort of mad man that needs the help of a straight jacket.......on the other side anyone who fights the 'No' corner also gets kicked down too but to a lesser extent.

Politics eh?

We have a further year to go so you Mods best get prepared......:thup:

Yes...well said Dodger.
Decent debate in my view.

PS
It is spending the lottery grants i was thinking about.

 

[ger147]

Well that increases my chances of winning!






(Statistics never were my strong point.....)

It doesn't - what it does is reduce the prize pot if you win but your odds of winning remain the same.

 

[williamalex1]

It doesn't - what it does is reduce the prize pot if you win but your odds of winning remain the same.

I was trying to cheer her up 147.More chance of a lotto win than a 147 I would imagine.:lol:

 

[FairwayDodger]

It doesn't - what it does is reduce the prize pot if you win but your odds of winning remain the same.

Yeah, as per the statistics not being my strong point comment... (I lied)

 

[Andy808]

Well it must be a done deal now that Scotland could have it's own team for the next Olympics. That's got to get the 74% who don't want it at the moment voting for independence now.

Politicians really do need a reality check at times, it's as bad as letting 16-18 year olds vote just to try their hardest to force through a vote they know they won't win.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Just had our first televised debate up here.

Interesting that the one guy who showed any vision and clarity was the leader of the Scottish Greens.

 

[DCB]

A whole year of this to go.... unbelievable....... there were more tv vans outside the parliament today on my way home than there were after King Ecks last election win.