Scottish golf app- projected WHS

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mine just updated - deleted all the rounds under my WHS section and now it says my WHS index is 15.2....which is my CONGU hcp.
sounds like a right mess.

Did they employ the same people who made the test and trace system?
 

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"Scream if you wanna go faster!"

My away scores have returned, they're on the wrong courses.
It seems to be suggesting an NR is a Score Differential of 0 now.
My handicap index is back to the mysteriously excellent 2.8.
 

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Some detail from SG on how they've calculated the new handicap indices.

https://scottishgolf.org/whs-initial-handicap-index-explained/

Lots of data issues in the CDH have caused them problems, they've tried to work round these as best they can but GIGO. Upshot is that we might have to accept the record isn't perfect to start with but will correct over time as scores are submitted. Clubs have the ability to put through an adjustment if the HI is just wrong.

I refer you to my post #88.

Like anything under the beleaguered leader of SG it's been another utter shambles. They've had all lockdown to work on this and get the system in place/correct why is anyone surprised she's overseen another monumental cock up.
 

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https://scottishgolf.org/whs-initial-handicap-index-explained/

Lots of data issues in the CDH have caused them problems, they've tried to work round these as best they can but GIGO. Upshot is that we might have to accept the record isn't perfect to start with but will correct over time as scores are submitted. Clubs have the ability to put through an adjustment if the HI is just wrong.

Utterly shambolic. That is the most extraordinary piece of "dog ate my homework" I've ever seen from a professional organisation. All those data problems are surmountable, none are impossible to work around or resolve. They've had *over a year* to get ready for this!

Wow!

Edit: to be clear, I don't care about the mess of my handicap, I'll play my way back to normality. I do care about the many hundreds of volunteers that are likely losing a lot of their own time and sleep over this and SG should be ashamed of putting them on the spot like this.
 
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Anyone on here who works in IT, Change, Comms or Programme Management is gently shaking their heads and wondering who put this piece of work together. Nothing is as easy as someone else's project, but in this case there's too many obvious "old chestnuts" happening to not raise eyebrows.

"In performing the initial WHS Index calculation, Scottish Golf has only been able to use data currently available on the Central Database of Handicaps (CDH). This is historic data provided by golf clubs through their Independent Software Vendors (ISVs) and, unfortunately, we have no control over its accuracy"

How long have they had to do data cleansing? They would have known before they started that club based data would be a mess, or at best, inconsistent. My club writing out about needing emails/data permissions 3 weeks ago demonstrates the poor running of this. The pages of questions on here shows how well the comms has gone...

the most extraordinary piece of "dog ate my homework" I've ever seen from a professional organisation. .

I am pleased to see someone else says this.... :)
 
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Stupid question, but with the new system I’m assuming the point 1 is finished and you just go up and down as required from your best 8 rounds?
 

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Stupid question, but with the new system I’m assuming the point 1 is finished and you just go up and down as required from your best 8 rounds?

Yes - no more 0.1's, buffers etc. Just play your round, submit your score and your index is re-calculated.
 

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Another update overnight.....my index looks spot on for the first time and they've sorted the NR issue where it showed a score differential of 0.
 

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With a heavy sigh...

I’m now handicap index 7.7 and it’s likely the closest it will get to “correct” but it seems to have been done through the removal of all my away scores and a home NR

So while it’s not at all representative of my recent play I’ll feel slightly less ridiculous playing off 8 for a bit.

I always knew I had single figures in me. Easy when you fiddle the numbers. ?
 

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“Working” for me. Layout has removed the projected menu option and now have a WHS CONGU certificate of 7.7.

Which is wrong but right. ?
 
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