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KenL

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Not sure about Rangers especially. Whilst a good win, and any win by a Scottish team in Europe seems to be quantifiable as good these days, Galatasaray are by no means the force they once were in European terms. And even then they were probably 2nd tier good.

Take nothing away from the win, but it wasn't against the European giant that some would have you believe.

No need for the negativity. A great achievement qualifying again.
 

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No need for the negativity. A great achievement qualifying again.

Lets detach realism from negativity. As I said, its a good win. Leverkusen showed what a good European team looks like.

I assume you are a Rangers fan, let me ask you a question. Do you truly Believe that Rangers qualifying for Europe's second tier tournament is a great achievement?

I am not taking anything away from the Importance of qualifying, absolutely not.

I repeat my original post, qualifying is a good result. Beating Galatasaray is a good result, all positive. The reality is that Galatasaray are not as big a scalp as some are making out. I reference Bayer Leverkusen again, I watched both games and they made Rangers look like Falkirk.
 

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Maybe not but still a step up in quality and a game they probably weren’t expected to win.

Coming through the qualifying rounds is a good achievement considering the level Scottish football is at these days.

Your second paragraph highlights my point. I am not tearing down Rangers result as some may think, merely a reality check of where our game actually is Nationally and Continentally.

Good achievement, yes absolutely. But sad that we have reached a stage that its seen as a great one IMO.

And this from a Dunfermline fan, so no skin in any European qualification game.
 
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Scottish League has moved up UEFA rankings from 26th in Europe 2 years ago to 14th now so that's a positive move demonstrating it's getting a little better and perhaps not as bad as some spoiled on the EPL suggest. Sure 2 teams dominate but that drags others standards up behind them.

For some Gers fans they'd rather be out of Europe, even with the associated financial hit, so they can concentrate 100% on stopping Celtic's 10 in a row. That kind of thinking is just sad.

Rangers under Gerrard are steadily getting better.
 

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So the SPFL have agreed to put Killie game off tonight yet forced St Mirren to play without a recognised goalkeeper 2 weeks ago. Farcical.

Really are a bunch of inept corrupt clowns that run our game.
 

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Anyway - good to see a couple of Scottish clubs doing what they had to do in Europe.? (also through gritted teeth :) )
 
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So the SPFL have agreed to put Killie game off tonight yet forced St Mirren to play without a recognised goalkeeper 2 weeks ago. Farcical.

Really are a bunch of inept corrupt clowns that run our game.

Was the main difference here not that, instead of it just being one player, the whole Killie team are isolating?
I mean, I know you like having a pop at the SPFL, and often with good cause. But one player being unavailable vs a whole squad is maybe the right call.
 

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Was the main difference here not that, instead of it just being one player, the whole Killie team are isolating?
I mean, I know you like having a pop at the SPFL, and often with good cause. But one player being unavailable vs a whole squad is maybe the right call.

All 3 goalkeepers in the St Mirren squad were out. One positive - 2 forced into self isolation.

Aberdeen had 8 players out - were willing to play with a second string and told no.

Celtic had one player fail to self isolate - games went off.

Absolutely zero consistency - thats the issue and my grype. Its ridiculous.
 

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All 3 goalkeepers in the St Mirren squad were out. One positive - 2 forced into self isolation.

Aberdeen had 8 players out - were willing to play with a second string and told no.

Celtic had one player fail to self isolate - games went off.

Absolutely zero consistency - thats the issue and my grype. Its ridiculous.

Aberdeen and Celtic were being punished for players breaching law/rules again, apples and oranges.

St Mirren were allowed to sign a keeper from Hearts. Not sure Killie could sign an entire squad.

I get it, you dislike the powers that be, and with good cause. But the Aberdeen and Celtic cases were absolutely politically motivated IMO to make a statement.
 

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Aberdeen and Celtic were being punished for players breaching law/rules again, apples and oranges.

St Mirren were allowed to sign a keeper from Hearts. Not sure Killie could sign an entire squad.

I get it, you dislike the powers that be, and with good cause. But the Aberdeen and Celtic cases were absolutely politically motivated IMO to make a statement.

They were allowed to make an emergency signing which costs them money and potentially the points too. Inconsistencies are an utter farce either way you look at it.

Killie have lost 6 players out of a squad - I have no issues with that and agree it should have been called off, for me that's the correct decision. The wrong decision was to punish St Mirren when they couldn't fulfill a "specialist" position and forced to trawl for an emergency keeper.
 

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How is it that 11 guys who get paid a fortune to kick a ball about a field cannot string 3 passes together? It's a shambles.
 

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Glad I didn't watch it, but great to still to be in with a chance.

Wonder how pubs managed to throw people out at 10pm during the penalties? ?
 

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Undefeated for six games now, W4 D2, make it sound much better.;):love:
That has not happened since the heady days of Wee Gordon.

Seemingly that was our first ever penalty shootout.......how very Un-Scottish to win it.
At least we are now top of that list.;)
 
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