Scotland Debate

[stevie_r]

I'm just offended by people who try to justify racism of any kind by anyone as simple banter when it clearly offends others. Others being the key word. Just because something doesn't offend you doesn't make it ok and it also doesn't mean someone who it does offend is either

A. Overly sensitive.

or

B. Desperate to feel offended by something, anything

Clearly some of the Scottish people here are offended by some of the terms by posters that are used but it would seem nothing is done as it continues to happen.

This is not the only thread I have noticed it on either so I'm not basing my opinion on this one thread. I've been a member here since 2008 I just don't post as often as most but I do read a lot of the threads and disappointed that these attitudes are allowed to continue.

For what it worth I don't accept being called a Paddy or a Mick or a bead rattler or any other term that I think is derogatory to me but to some people its ok as its only banter...not in my eyes.

Anyway back to the big debate...

Aye or naw?

Well given the lack of responses, clearly Jock or Jockanese hasn't been found to be particularly offensive. Secondly, why did you feel the need to try and introduce religion into the debate.

 

[Val]

As many here already know I dislike the term

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

As many here already know I dislike the term

Why? I'm yet to actually see any reasons.

The name itself stems from "John", being an ordinary person. How is this offensive?

 

[ger147]

As many here already know I dislike the term

So you're not one of Jock Tamson's bairns?

 

[Farneyman]

Well given the lack of responses, clearly Jock or Jockanese hasn't been found to be particularly offensive. Secondly, why did you feel the need to try and introduce religion into the debate.

Sorry I should have made it clearer. I was giving examples of derogatory terms I have been called and don't accept and one of them was when I was referred to as a tattie munching bead rattler...I found it offensive then and I still do.

It was racist and sectarian all in one go but again that's for a whole new thread...

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Sorry I should have made it clearer. I was giving examples of derogatory terms I have been called and don't accept and one of them was when I was referred to as a tattie munching bead rattler...I found it offensive then and I still do.

It was racist and sectarian all in one go but again that's for a whole new thread...

And Jock ? Racist ? Really ?

 

[SocketRocket]

The scouse one isn't beacause we are all great, sexy and brillllliiiiiannnnttttttt. The rest of you aren't.

Fair Comment :thup:

 

[Val]

Why? I'm yet to actually see any reasons.

The name itself stems from "John", being an ordinary person. How is this offensive?

I can't stand the term, hated it since the day I joined the army at 16

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I can't stand the term, hated it since the day I joined the army at 16

Why ?

 

[Liverbirdie]

Please?

 

[Val]

Why ?

I really don't know if I'm honest, I just didn't, still don't.

 

[Val]

Please?

I'm sure there's many south of there would happily do so

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I really don't know if I'm honest, I just didn't, still don't.

But racist though ?

Yes possibly could understand not liking it when people use it in a derogatory manner but even then it's insulting not racist

 

[Rumpokid]

I can't stand the term, hated it since the day I joined the army at 16

Name game..Fill in the blanks ---- Stein ---- Wallace ----- and the Geordies(Beano Cartoon Strip}...All famous folk in their own right.

 

[Farneyman]

And Jock ? Racist ? Really ?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...rray-useless-jock-is-convicted-of-racism.html

If you read this then it would appear so...

 

[Deleted member 15344]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...rray-useless-jock-is-convicted-of-racism.html

If you read this then it would appear so...

So using the term jock is now racist because one guy as convicted of abusing someone ?!

Blimey I have been racially abusing my sister in law all these years !!

That detracts from the true racist abuse

 

[Farneyman]

I don't make the law. I just try to follow it.

Anyway it has been mentioned here on GM numerous times that some people find it offensive but heyho nothing is happening so if you want to carry on using it, knock yourself out. I for one wont.

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

EDIT - oops, questions already answered - ignore post!

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

I don't make the law. I just try to follow it.

Anyway it has been mentioned here on GM numerous times that some people find it offensive but heyho nothing is happening so if you want to carry on using it, knock yourself out. I for one wont.

Has it? I've seen Valentino mention that he/she doesn't like it, but nothing that suggests "numerous" people find it offensive.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I don't make the law. I just try to follow it.

Anyway it has been mentioned here on GM numerous times that some people find it offensive but heyho nothing is happening so if you want to carry on using it, knock yourself out. I for one wont.

So should I be arrested and charged for using he term "jock" or "jockanese" ?

Lots of people could well be I'm trouble very soon

Lots of nicknames need changing - believe there is also some cartoon characters called jock

Never heard anyone find the term offensive until now - and I'm truly amazed.