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SocketRocket

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Don't flatter yourself Brian, there are a select few I dislike and you are not one if them. I should add you not wanting to come on my website is your choice, I'm not going to promote it here those who want to find it can do (mods, I'm just replying to SR's comment no promoting)

As for the term Jockanese, I'm not offended I just find it patronising, why not just say Scottish?

Back on topic, this topic is not about me or racism.

But it's not racist is it?

Anyhow, fair enough, back on topic.
 

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Yes, if deemed so by someone who it is aimed.

And one last comment on this.

My understanding is that, according to (the? English?) Law, certain descriptions are deemed racist by 'society'. But just because a person deems an expression to be racist, does not automatically mean that is racist. I think I got that right. It was stated by a fairly 'high-up' solicitor.

May be different in Scotland of course! :whistle:
 
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As a new person this thread makes very sad reading. Casual racism and dig after dig. Not a nice thread.


Can you point out the "casual racism"

Far too easy to accuse people these days
 
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Do people really believe Jock is a racist term ! Seriously !
 

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No and it appears that there may be a few on hear that better steer clear of the Tower of London as there is a certain Beefeater there that might upset them as he has a very interesting take on Scots the kilt and other aspects of Scottish history, and guess what, nobody takes offence.

Get the odd hacker on a golf forum and the battle of the Caladonian NAAFI kicks off.
 

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There's the old banter card used again.

That makes everything ok then?????

I'm really surprised that this attitude is allowed to fester here by the powers that be. Then again I'm not really the more I think about it. Shame really.

If you are offended by anything posted here in the last couple of pages then I would suggest that you are either:

A. Overly sensitive.
B. Desperate to feel offended by something, anything
 

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There's the old banter card used again.

That makes everything ok then?????

I'm really surprised that this attitude is allowed to fester here by the powers that be. Then again I'm not really the more I think about it. Shame really.

What attitude is this??

Are you genuinely implying that those posters who use the term "jock" are racist? If you could point out what about that term is racist (as of yet, no-one has) then I would appreciate it. Because I have used that phrase offline, and would hate for anyone to think me racist in the future, so would gladly stop using it if it has any racist connotations.
 

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OK, how about, Scousers, Geordies, Cockney, Janners, Brummies, Yam Yams. Are these all racist terms?

The scouse one isn't beacause we are all great, sexy and brillllliiiiiannnnttttttt. The rest of you aren't.

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What attitude is this??

Are you genuinely implying that those posters who use the term "jock" are racist? If you could point out what about that term is racist (as of yet, no-one has) then I would appreciate it. Because I have used that phrase offline, and would hate for anyone to think me racist in the future, so would gladly stop using it if it has any racist connotations.


I would suggest that you give serious consideration on future.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...rray-useless-jock-is-convicted-of-racism.html
 

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I'm just offended by people who try to justify racism of any kind by anyone as simple banter when it clearly offends others. Others being the key word. Just because something doesn't offend you doesn't make it ok and it also doesn't mean someone who it does offend is either

A. Overly sensitive.

or

B. Desperate to feel offended by something, anything

Clearly some of the Scottish people here are offended by some of the terms by posters that are used but it would seem nothing is done as it continues to happen.

This is not the only thread I have noticed it on either so I'm not basing my opinion on this one thread. I've been a member here since 2008 I just don't post as often as most but I do read a lot of the threads and disappointed that these attitudes are allowed to continue.

For what it worth I don't accept being called a Paddy or a Mick or a bead rattler or any other term that I think is derogatory to me but to some people its ok as its only banter...not in my eyes.

Anyway back to the big debate...

Aye or naw?
 
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I'm just offended by people who try to justify racism of any kind by anyone as simple banter when it clearly offends others. Others being the key word. Just because something doesn't offend you doesn't make it ok and it also doesn't mean someone who it does offend is either

A. Overly sensitive.

or

B. Desperate to feel offended by something, anything

Clearly some of the Scottish people here are offended by some of the terms by posters that are used but it would seem nothing is done as it continues to happen.

This is not the only thread I have noticed it on either so I'm not basing my opinion on this one thread. I've been a member here since 2008 I just don't post as often as most but I do read a lot of the threads and disappointed that these attitudes are allowed to continue.

For what it worth I don't accept being called a Paddy or a Mick or a bead rattler or any other term that I think is derogatory to me but to some people its ok as its only banter...not in my eyes.

Anyway back to the big debate...

Aye or naw?


So I'm a racist then and using racist terms because I call friends and family members jocks or jockanese ?
 
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