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So it's basically just the call of one person to administer fines towards parents based on his call ?! That doesn't seem a very robust system
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So it's basically just the call of one person to administer fines towards parents based on his call ?! That doesn't seem a very robust system
SaintHacker
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In a way your suggestion is a bit like trying to solve the issue of slow play by saying if you get round in under 4 hours 5 times in a row, you can then take as long as you want for the rest of the year .
Not really, because it isn't going to save me either three grand, or a whacking great fine!
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
It's is the heads call as they run the school on an operational basis. Much as any chief exec/MD runs a company and makes calls. But any decent governing body will be aware of how the head is interpreting policy. But this does not happen in real time.
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
If you are saving yourself 3 grand then you holiday in some very fancy places . A week In Beadnell is all I can afford in the summer
On the flip side I now love my UK holidays more as I choose to go when there will be none or not many screaming kids about, it's bliss 😎
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That's madness that there is no one above the head to monitor and assess each application
I have to agree. Looking forward to Yorkshire next year, deep in the dales. Any chance we can stick any sprogs in 't'mills?
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
No is not, the head has earned the right to make these calls. You don't have someone monitoring every decision the chief exec makes. And in the grand scheme of things, these decisions are pretty small beer compared with what heads have to do on a daily basis.
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Of course you need someone to clarify the choices especially when it effects families and their children and when it's quite clear not all heads have the ability to make clear judgements - what happens if a head has a grudge against a parent etc - so many different permutations. All it needs is for the desicions to go to the next level up for clarification and then it's sorted.
SaintHacker
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If you are saving yourself 3 grand then you holiday in some very fancy places . A week In Beadnell is all I can afford in the summer
Lol, fair enough comment, maybe a small exaggeration on my part but you get my gist. I think this is something we will have to agree to disagree over or we will be here longer than the football tnread!
Good shout. It's why I think that term time needs to be sacrosanct wherever possible. I do see why you can argue that there are exceptional circumstances and some given here would seem valid, but it has to be a decision made somewhere and surely the head teacher knowing what is happening and having a fair idea about the pupil in their care, is the best equipped to do this
FairwayDodger
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Can see why this would be anoying but it seems just like supply and demand to me. If it helps don't think of it as they hike prices during the school hols as much as cheaper deals are available to those able to travel outside of peak times.
User20205
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Why do you care?
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
So we are saying that we trust heads to make decisions that potentially effect the future life chances of pupils through how the school operates and teaches it's pupils and how they develop and incentivise the staff, but we don't trust them to not authorise someone's holiday to Torremolinos?
And as I have already said, there is no one above the head for school operational issues. If you think there should be then email Nicky Morgan.
Because it's a forum and I have a right to express my views and hopefully at some point in 2016 we'll be adopting after a long, long process. Is that OK with you and apologies for not running it by you first
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
I mostly avoid football threads, they bring out the worst in people.Where as this one has in no way at times resorted to petty point scoring fuelled by long held grudges
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User20205
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But if you have no kids why have you got an opinion? It doesn't affect you either way.
You've no experience on the subject which makes your opinion nonsense
But I will have, hopefully next year so always interested to get an insight. I don't play professional football so does that preclude me having a view on those threads too? It doesn't matter either way and quite frankly what's it got to do with you? I've as much right to post as the next man thank you
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
With the best will in the world, a lot of posts on here are made with little, if no direct experience of the subject. Only opinion based on a number of things.
For example as a white middle class male I have never experienced discrimination. But I hope I can comment on that topic and add something to the debate?
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User20205
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But you or I can't talk with any authority on discrimination for example. We know it's wrong, it doesn't sit right with us, but we can definitively say what it feels like.
Expressing a view on something you have no knowledge of makes you a vacuous bag of wind IMO
