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Ryder Cup 2025 - All matters

Pin-seeker said:
Alcohol turns knobs into even bigger knobs.
Also On nights out you get people who are probably usually well behaved acting like knobs.
And I’m pretty sure if you showed them a video the morning after they’d be embarrassed.

Imo of course.
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I believe that in the USA there is a precedent for people being completely shameless about their past indiscretions.
*have I spelt precedent correctly? 😉
 
Arthur Wedge said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1972724784506241198

They don’t appear to be taking the loss very well

Right now instead of looking at the performance of the US players and Captain they are instead focusing all the hate towards the likes of Rory and Hovland

These are all snapshots of the mentality of US sports crowds when losing
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I mean, there are also plenty of clips of Americans fully praising the Europeans as well.

And let's not pretend all us Europeans have shown great humbleness and respect in victory. We've also enjoyed ripping apart the personalities of the likes of Bryson, Bradley and JT. Yet even Bradley and JT have since come out and shown huge respect to Donald and his players
 
Alcohol is a mood amplifier. It can remove inhibitions, turning what you might think into what you’ll actually say. Add in a bit of mob rule, where intelligence follows the lowest common denominator, and you get what we saw at the weekend. And it isn’t constrained by national identities or traits. There’s plenty of evidence with football supporters to show that the country of birth has nothing to do with how badly people can behave.

Banning alcohol isn’t the answer but stronger policing and crowd control stops people from spoiling things for others.
 
sunshine said:
Strange post. Fitzpatrick is not an 18 handicapper, he’s a professional golfer, playing a course set up to be easy. He could have made some birdies.

He was 5 up, he should have been able to park the bus and see off Bryson. I think his nerves got the better of him. Some people might call that choking.

I think he was drained after the first 2 days and had nothing left in the tank. Felt like a lot of the European team were exhausted after sprinting out of the blocks on day one and then enduring the cauldron of day two. Guys like Rahm were running on empty after a super human performance on the first two days.
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I think it would be interesting to know what Fitz hit on the back 9 and what BDC hit. I don't remember Fitz collapsing, BDC just went on a birdie trail. Sometimes you just have to accept a player played very well.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
I think it would be interesting to know what Fitz hit on the back 9 and what BDC hit. I don't remember Fitz collapsing, BDC just went on a birdie trail. Sometimes you just have to accept a player played very well.
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I can't remember him.getting many bogies. And I remember once or twice during the comeback he sank a great putt to get the half.

Bryson just got into one of those zones where he played great golf, and made no mistakes.

It may not have been a tricky course. But competing against Bryson when he is in the zone, with extreme crowds who roar when he hits a good shot, and roar at every little mistake you make, must be insanely tough.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
I think it would be interesting to know what Fitz hit on the back 9 and what BDC hit. I don't remember Fitz collapsing, BDC just went on a birdie trail. Sometimes you just have to accept a player played very well.
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I actually said on our whats app group that if BDC could putt he would not be 5 down. Literally at that point he found his putter And Fitzs went to sleep.🤬
 
I think Fitz did what we all have done in the past where he got into a great position then tried to play safe golf instead of keep playing the golf that got him into that position.

How many of us in a medal find ourselves 2 better than handicap with a couple of holes to go and then try and steer a tee shot instead of playing like we had done for the previous holes.

Bryson was also in the position he had to go for everything which I think suits him.

We saw all tournament how important momentum is and Bryson is probably the worst player to get into a run against with the way he plays and gets the crowd involved.

I would have taken a half in that match before a ball was struck but obviously was disappointing given the lead Fitz had not to take a point.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
I think it would be interesting to know what Fitz hit on the back 9 and what BDC hit. I don't remember Fitz collapsing, BDC just went on a birdie trail. Sometimes you just have to accept a player played very well.
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Fitz was 4 under after 7 holes, but then bogeyed the 8th. On the back nine he birdied 12 & 13 (both halves though), then bogeyed 14 when Bryson birdied it anyway, then ultimately Fitz bogeyed 17 which cost him his win. Bryson was level par front nine, but got four birdies in a row from 12 to 15.
 
Orikoru said:
Fitz was 4 under after 7 holes, but then bogeyed the 8th. On the back nine he birdied 12 & 13 (both halves though), then bogeyed 14 when Bryson birdied it anyway, then ultimately Fitz bogeyed 17 which cost him his win. Bryson was level par front nine, but got four birdies in a row from 12 to 15.
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I think they both had the same number of birdies (5) and bogeys (3) as each other.
 
Golf, and match play itself, can be crazy at times. It is not uncommon for someone to build up a good lead, and then have that lead pegged back. Momentum and mentality play a huge part. A player who builds a good lead, at some point can have their momentum halted my a small mistake, or great play by the opponent. They can naturally become more defensive, and that can be a bad thing, if their opponent has stopped stressing out as much, and just decided to swing freely and see what happens by playing on the front foot.

Had the match been all square after 7 holes in the Bryson v Fitzpatrick match, or maybe just one in it either way, we'd have probably seen a completely different final 11 holes. Bryson would have likely been less pumped up and have more thought into not making mistakes, and Matt may have looked to play more on the front foot rather than being worried about losing a big lead.
 
bobmac said:
So you are comparing a relaxing time spent by the with your loved one to a drunk American at the Ryder Cup on home soil with his mates, surrounded by 1000s of other like minded frustrated people trying to put the Europeans off by hurling abuse because they were losing badly?
And my analogy was weird?
Of course, alcohol wasn't completely to blame but in the circumstances it looks as if it didn't help.
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Yet you can’t see the irony of you comparing getting drunk in a night club to people going to B&Q!

Think you’re losing the plot mate. Mine was based on people that are actually drinking not shopping for their latest wallpaper in B&Q!
 
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