duncan mackie
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no it doesn't - please read rule 32-1, it's really really clear!
Rules question - order of play.
- Thread starter Kellfire
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no it doesn't - please read rule 32-1, it's really really clear!
rosecott
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Exactly - who cares? but you're wrong.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
On which bit..?
rosecott
Money List Winner
My headhurts after one and a half bottles, but:
On hole 4,A has the honour by virtue of the best stableford score on hole 3. Neither B nor C scored a point on hole 3, therefore their order is decided by the points they scored on hole 2 (their gross score on hole 3 is irrelevant as neither scored a stableford point).
On hole 5, B or C (assuming the same points score on hole 4) has the honour depending on who should have played second on hole 4.
I have definitely lost the will to live.
Kellfire
Blackballed
It's technically a comp because £1 each is at stake but it's a nine hole hack around for practice for charity, really.
Basically this is what happened.
I was player B.
On the 3rd, we teed off in order of: C - B - A.
As explained A took the 3rd with 1 point, then B (myself) and C took "no returns" though I did tap in for a 7 net 6.
On the 4th tee, we went in order of A - B (myself) - C which I didn't understand as I felt I should have been last but I thought at the time C waved me on because he wasn't ready and it wasn't a serious comp. It wasn't until the 5th tee that I found out why he had actually told me to go first.
So as explained we hole out on the 4th with Player B (myself) taking a 3, net 2. Player C took the same, with Player A taking a 4 net 3.
Now I know at this stage that the order on the 3rd was wrong (and actually related to the second hole in their eyes) but FOR NOW ignore that and pretend we thought we had it right on the 3rd and I'll explain that after we've sorted this one.
I teed up on the fifth only to be told by Player A to get on my bike and wait my turn because I hadn't won the previous hole outright (because C also had a 3) thus we retain order of him before me. It was said in jest I thought so I laughed it off but he was deadly serious.
I didn't have my rules book in my bag so didn't want to make an issue and with it not being a serious comp I let it slide but I spent the rest of the round convinced I was in the right and I wanted to make sure.
To make matters worse, they claimed that the rules goes further to say that the order from the previous hole rotates for those making the same score with the person who went first the previous time dropping to the back.
Thus we actually teed off on the 5th in the order of A - C - B!
Going back to why we teed off in the order we did on the 4th, they said that because C had teed off before me (Player B) on the 3rd but had failed to better my "no return" with his own, the same rotation rule had applied between myself and him and thus he went to the back of all the players who scored the same, in this case myself and him.
williamalex1
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is there a penalty . for not playing the latest version of the teeing off order. some of our older players still play the old format, i.e. if the player who had the honour takes a 5 and the other two players take 4s. he still has the honour.and if, there is a penalty are all the players penalised if this is done throughtout the round , or disquallified. in stroke medal play
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Pro Zach
Assistant Pro
I read rule 32-1 because Duncan pointed to it in post #5. I have re-read it and it says “In handicap bogey,par and Stableford competitions, the competitor with the lowest net score at a hole takes the honour at the next teeing groundâ€.
The OP says both B and C scored 3 net 2. Neither one had the lowest score, gross or nett, so no one won the honour.
Whether anyone scored points or not seems irrelevant. It is based on the nett score.
Kellfire
Blackballed
This might explain part of my question!
rosecott
Money List Winner
I'm glad there is someone even more confused than me. It's based on stableford points scored.
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rosecott
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There is no penalty - it's a lot of hot air but it passes the time till we tee off tomorrow morning.
bladeplayer
Money List Winner
and if either you , Duncan Or Mashie are confused how you think the rest of us mere mortals feel
williamalex1
Money List Winner
yes and we tend to pass it more and more as we get older. i can play tunes with mine now.
Pro Zach
Assistant Pro
Lucky sod. I'm passing time till I go to work tomorrow morning.
rosecott
Money List Winner
My commiserations - I'll be thinking of you.
Kellfire
Blackballed
Can you confirm from my rather long winded post above that Player A was wrong to retain honour for the 5th and that C shouldn't have dropped behind B after the 3rd?
Sorry to pester, just need to know before I have a word with these two when next I see them.
williamalex1
Money List Winner
i do requests , no rude ones please , don,t want to turn the air blue, do wee
rosecott
Money List Winner
Can you confirm from my rather long winded post above that Player A was wrong to retain honour for the 5th and that C shouldn't have dropped behind B after the 3rd?
Sorry to pester, just need to know before I have a word with these two when next I see them.
See my answer #24. Don't ask me to repeat it or I will die.
Kellfire
Blackballed
Cheers, missed that amongst the replies. Really appreciated.
Would their "interpretation" have been accurate in other forms of the game?
rosecott
Money List Winner
Rule 32-1 applies to Bogey and Stableford comps - any more questions and you will die.
North Mimms
Tour Winner
I pity the people playing behind you while you check your rule book .
And as for A checking you when you teed up?
If it was his honour he should have been there.
I really hate seeing a group having a long rambling discussion about who scored what 3 holes ago.
Someone step up and hit it!
And as for A checking you when you teed up?
If it was his honour he should have been there.
I really hate seeing a group having a long rambling discussion about who scored what 3 holes ago.
Someone step up and hit it!
