GB72
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Few comments around that he should have had an HIA after that hit. May explain the kicking
ColchesterFC
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What was Ben Youngs' excuse? His kicking from hand was very poor, in the first half especially. I thought the pack should have dominated more after Argentina went down to 14. We controlled the game without ever dominating it but a bonus point win is not to be sniffed at and we're through.
stefanovic
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Watched a bit of the first half. Could someone tell me why England fans sing a slave song?
PhilTheFragger
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Yeah that was some hit he took. Seemed ok though, but agree it’s hard to tell.
Couple of early hard tackles on Farrell, pretty sure they were trying to nobble him .
Red card no doubt helped, but England didn’t really use their advantage, still a good win, but they will have to play better against France
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PhilTheFragger
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It’s a song that has been adopted, it’s original meaning is possibly lost on many, but I think it is good to explore the origins of the song.
Certainly there is no racist intent and Negro spiritual songs are popular with choirs up and down the land.
For my take on it, the sweet chariot coming for to carrying me home, refers to the open bus tour when we win the World Cup ðŸ‘
stefanovic
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I would have to ask the black players and supporters their take on this. If they are fine that's okay. If not, I think England fans should drop it.
SocketRocket
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Swing Low, 'Slave Song' Its a hymm.
Its also popular because of the hand motions.
stefanovic
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What's a hymm?
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paddyc
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Can we call it a hymn? Should it not now be called a "They"
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Another hard win for England, still not at their best and still producing the results.
All looking good for me.
All looking good for me.
SocketRocket
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Think you need a pint of Doombar.
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GB72
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Not a stellar performance but an unexpected bonus point, the previously injured players got game time, some of the reserves got more time on the pitch than would normally have been expected, no reported injuries and through to the next round taking the pressure off the France match. In exactly the position we would want despite not yet firing on all cylinders. Would be nice to win the group, would rather face Australia than Wales.
Foxholer
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Unashamedly stolen from Wikipedia....
"Swing Low, Sweet Chariot" has been sung by rugby players and fans for some decades,[40] and there are associated gestures, sometimes used in a drinking game, which requires those who wrongly perform the gestures to buy a round of drinks.[41][42] It became associated with the English national side, in particular, in 1988. Coming into the last match of the 1988 season, against Ireland at Twickenham, England had lost 15 of their previous 23 matches in the Five Nations Championship. The Twickenham crowd had only seen one solitary England try in the previous two years and at half time against Ireland they were 0–3 down. However, during the second half England scored six tries to give them a 35–3 win. Three of the tries came in quick succession from black player Chris Oti making his Twickenham debut. A group of boys from the Benedictine school Douai following a tradition at their school games sang "Swing Low, Sweet Chariot" whenever a try was scored. When Oti scored his second try, amused spectators standing close to the boys joined in, and when Oti scored his hat-trick the song was heard around the ground.[40][43][44] The song is still regularly sung at matches by English supporters.[45]
The England national rugby union team returned from the 2003 Rugby World Cup triumph in Australia on a plane dubbed "Sweet Chariot".[46]
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Dibby
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I don't get all the negativity about England.
They had the bonus point wrapped up by the 46th minute. 87% tackle success, 59 carries over the gain line, 433 metres made against 226 for Argentina.
On top of that, they have 3 wins, 3 bonus points, only 2 tries conceded in the whole world cup, and +99 points difference from 3 games.
For those that haven't played rugby before, the idea is to win the game, not entertain the crowd and TV viewers. In that respect, it's a bit like golf, you win by taking the least number of strokes, there's no extra credit if any of those strokes are flashy shots.
They had the bonus point wrapped up by the 46th minute. 87% tackle success, 59 carries over the gain line, 433 metres made against 226 for Argentina.
On top of that, they have 3 wins, 3 bonus points, only 2 tries conceded in the whole world cup, and +99 points difference from 3 games.
For those that haven't played rugby before, the idea is to win the game, not entertain the crowd and TV viewers. In that respect, it's a bit like golf, you win by taking the least number of strokes, there's no extra credit if any of those strokes are flashy shots.
GB72
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Played prop for nearly 30 years. Comments are not disparaging England so much as pointing out that we have been good enough to beat 2 tier 2 nations and a team down to 14 men after a few minutes. So far we have been good enough to win comfortably but not good enough to beat the best in the world. We are improving every match although
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