ColchesterFC
Journeyman Pro
Cheers. Didn't realise that rule had been changed. In that case the second Scotland try should definitely have been given.
Bunkermagnet
Journeyman Pro
Yep, well done South Africa.
ColchesterFC
Journeyman Pro
Despite the result it was good to watch a game that wasn't stop/start for video reviews. Just wish they could find a way to speed up the scrums as at the minute they seem to take all of the pace out of the match.
He's huge isn't he. He was walking back after the second try with his arms behind his head. I reckon his biceps are bigger than my thighs, and he's a winger
. Once he is running he is a monster to stop.I watched it in a pub, couldn't hear the commentary. I'm not too upset as an England fan. We showed attacking zip, finally some excitement and intent. Some sloppy stuff cost them but if this is a new start, new style, good signs. At least it wasn't ball up the forwards jumper stuff.
upsidedown
Tour Winner
Great atmosphere at Murrayfield today and fantastic banter from all around us .
Scoreline flattered England in the end, not sure where they go from here, get some younger players in to get some experience and move on in a transitional manner….,,
Slime
Tour Winner
England ........................... awful.
rudebhoy
Q-School Graduate
Bit rich given the number of overseas players England have fielded over the years, both in rugby and cricket.
I do love a bad loser
Are you talking about Geordie Vunipola and Scouse Tuilagi?Bit rich given the number of overseas players England have fielded over the years, both in rugby and cricket.
I do love a bad loser
Captainron
Big Hitting, South African Sweary Person
We need a mad lips of thatAre you talking about Geordie Vunipola and Scouse Tuilagi?
Captainron
Big Hitting, South African Sweary Person
To be fair to @Bunkermagnet there are 5 Saffas in that squad that I can remember off the top of my head
Van der Merwe, Steyn, Schoeman, Nel and admittedly very occasionally Kebble. That is a fair old whack. Huw Jones learned his professional craft in the Western Cape too.
Now this speaks more about South Africa than Scotland for me.
Van der Merwe, Steyn, Schoeman, Nel and admittedly very occasionally Kebble. That is a fair old whack. Huw Jones learned his professional craft in the Western Cape too.
Now this speaks more about South Africa than Scotland for me.
I think the system is wrong in how players can transfer countries and qualify. I never liked it when England were playing South Sea Islanders, the same applies for other nations. Internationals should not be transferable because a better opportunity arises. It isn't club rugby, it shouldn't work that way (I feel the same about other sports as well, cricket being the obvious one)
Captainron
Big Hitting, South African Sweary Person
General residency rules can’t be changed for sportsmen and women. The exclusion timing from the respective sporting bodies though should be the barrier to this happening. Increase it to 10 years and that would really thin out the changes.
D-S
Well-known member
The Vunipola brothers went to primary school just down the road from me and went to the local secondary school and played junior rugby for my local club. They have lived in the UK since they were young children, so hardly players qualifying to play on very short term residency.Are you talking about Geordie Vunipola and Scouse Tuilagi?
Fair play, I didn't dig deeply into the background. Lazy from me. The principle stands though, even if it doesn't apply to those guys.
rudebhoy
Q-School Graduate
Watched a feature about Bundee Aki yesterday, he qualified for Ireland after 3 years' residency. Assume it's the same for all the 6 nations? A nonsense if so.
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Some of Saturday's England players seem to have been around for ages.
A few can be described as 'journey men'
Seems to me like the structure needs a wake up call.
With all of those players, facilities and funding at England's disposal so they should be producing something an awful lot better.
With what is at their fingertips they should be the outstanding team in world rugby.
A few can be described as 'journey men'
Seems to me like the structure needs a wake up call.
With all of those players, facilities and funding at England's disposal so they should be producing something an awful lot better.
With what is at their fingertips they should be the outstanding team in world rugby.
Bunkermagnet
Journeyman Pro
Considering England have a new coach and direction, and quite a few young players coming in I would be more concerned that Scotland didn't beat them by more, and probably without DvdM would have lost.
GB72
Money List Winner
Not sure where some of that comes from. The RFU is skint, the clubs are losing money by the bucket load. For international rugby running less club sides, concentrating talent and reducing costs is a benefit. The home nations get the same amount of money pretty much out of the 6 nations as the TV revenue is split evenly and as the teams have the same international calendar and play similar opposition the levels of overall funding should not be that different.
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Do you think England should follow Scotland's example and reduce their professional teams to two.
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