Piece
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Very fast pace this half. 
Got to think one of them will run out of gas in the second.
Got to think one of them will run out of gas in the second.
SurreyGolfer
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Possibly the best half of rugby I've ever seen, unreal!
8 subs allowed, more than half the team. That still leaves some tired players but it's also a lot of fresh legs.Very fast pace this half.
2blue
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Yeah.... just when did they re-invent this game...... 'cos its very watchable.
2blue
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plus everyone else in the world & there's a reason for that.... entitlement!!
Piece
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Lots of tickets available next week 
Captainron
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Au Revoir…..
YES!!!
YES!!!
Norrin Radd
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What a game of rugby , it's gonna be tough next week for England.
Piece
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Yup. Much I want England to win, that's a bridge too far. Still...you never know...
South Africa immense tonight, but what a game again.
We will be lucky to see games like that again for the rest of the tournament.
Might get close when New Zealand play South Africa in the final
We will be lucky to see games like that again for the rest of the tournament.
Might get close when New Zealand play South Africa in the final
HeftyHacker
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I fear next week will be a prison style man-shaming for England.
What a game that was - two top top teams going at it hammer and tong.
Say what you like about the draw but it's thrown up some unbelievable matches so far. Just a shame the two games next week probably won't be as competitive as they should be.
What a game that was - two top top teams going at it hammer and tong.
Say what you like about the draw but it's thrown up some unbelievable matches so far. Just a shame the two games next week probably won't be as competitive as they should be.
The reality is, any other final would just be wrongSouth Africa immense tonight, but what a game again.
We will be lucky to see games like that again for the rest of the tournament.
Might get close when New Zealand play South Africa in the final
. Mind, can you imagine the rugby balloon deflating if it was Argentina v England in the final 
. The final no one wants, except Argentina and England.............
Bunkermagnet
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But Argentina getting to the final would be so good for the smaller rugby nations.The reality is, any other final would just be wrong
AmandaJR
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I called France, got that wrong, although if we can lay a glove on either I'd give us more chance against SA. It's unlikely we'll be even close, but think we'd struggle more against the speed and flair of France than against the more physical nature of SA.
Always the optimist
Always the optimist
I agree, but part of me thinks that the best 2 teams should be in the final and those are not Argentina or England. I also don't want S.Africa to win and I can't see Argentina stopping them so I need New Zealand to get through
GB72
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I am not giving up all hope yet. Last world cup England hammered New Zealand and the final against SA was written up as a formality and look what happened. I do not expect a win or even a close game but you never know. It is the hope that gets you.
Piece
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The difference this time is that this SA team know how to beat this England team. We are likely to get killed in the scrum, so expect lots of high ball, scrum, penalty, repeat, etc. etc.
Love it if I was wrong
Love it if I was wrong
GB72
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The difference this time is that this SA team know how to beat this England team. We are likely to get killed in the scrum, so expect lots of high ball, scrum, penalty, repeat, etc. etc.
Love it if I was wrong
What you mean that they did not now how to beat us last time when they beat us up in the scrum etc in the 2019 World Cup Final
How do England avoid the scrum then? Is there a tactic they can use to do this? They've had forward notice so hopefully it is something they are working on.What you mean that they did not now how to beat us last time when they beat us up in the scrum etc in the 2019 World Cup Final
The little box kicks from the French certainly negated the S.African attacking defence so I'm expecting to see that repeated.
SurreyGolfer
Active member
I caveat what I'm about to say with 'unless they have some sort of physical/mental hangover from the France game', but I think SA could beat us any which way they want to be perfectly honest:
- They will almost certainly do us in the scrum, might take until their replacements come on but they will.
- Their breakdown skills last night were insane, particularly considering the speed France were playing at, they will have no problem with our pace of play.
- They aren't the one-trick, forwards-only ponies of 10 years ago, rapid pace on the wings, creativity in De Allende, Kriel and FDK. They could go wide and we'll struggle to cope
- Their blitz and scramble defense is super impressive, haven't seen any weaknesses in the air, we're going to have to work hard to get over the gain line. Every. Single. Set.
.................we might cause them an issue or two in the lineout?
- They will almost certainly do us in the scrum, might take until their replacements come on but they will.
- Their breakdown skills last night were insane, particularly considering the speed France were playing at, they will have no problem with our pace of play.
- They aren't the one-trick, forwards-only ponies of 10 years ago, rapid pace on the wings, creativity in De Allende, Kriel and FDK. They could go wide and we'll struggle to cope
- Their blitz and scramble defense is super impressive, haven't seen any weaknesses in the air, we're going to have to work hard to get over the gain line. Every. Single. Set.
.................we might cause them an issue or two in the lineout?
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