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I'm not sure if anyone watched the golf yesterday from Dubai. Rory and Reed.

Radar saying that Rory was playing so well was -3 at the turn but should have been -7, his quote was Reed was "playing like a hacker" compared to Rory. Reed went on to outscore Rory and I genuinely believe that sums up Rory's game.
 

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I'm not sure if anyone watched the golf yesterday from Dubai. Rory and Reed.

Radar saying that Rory was playing so well was -3 at the turn but should have been -7, his quote was Reed was "playing like a hacker" compared to Rory. Reed went on to outscore Rory and I genuinely believe that sums up Rory's game.
Agree with you entirely, having watched him in person at the RC in Paris, we followed his group for a few holes there was no doubting his ball striking compared to the others playing was far better yet he didn't have a birdie the entire round and lost l, whereas those he played against got the ball in the hole no matter how they hit it
 

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I'm not sure if anyone watched the golf yesterday from Dubai. Rory and Reed.

Radar saying that Rory was playing so well was -3 at the turn but should have been -7, his quote was Reed was "playing like a hacker" compared to Rory. Reed went on to outscore Rory and I genuinely believe that sums up Rory's game.


just adds more to the saying ,"its how many not how"
 

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Rory was over par for the final round. You can see the quality of the ball striking but at this moment in time he simply doesn't seem capable of putting four good rounds together or to find a way to make a score. It's frustrating to watch as someone who wants him to do well
 

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Rory was over par for the final round. You can see the quality of the ball striking but at this moment in time he simply doesn't seem capable of putting four good rounds together or to find a way to make a score. It's frustrating to watch as someone who wants him to do well
He always plays rubbish on Sundays now. So predictable.
 

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How about another theory for why Rory scores high on final rounds...

He was 5 shots off the lead, and knew he needed to shoot low 60s to have a chance to win.

He doesn't care about coming 50th or 5th etc, that is the same to him, it is either win or don't win.

He then knows his only chance to win is to be hyper aggressive, go for every pin, smash every tee shot, and hope he gets the bounces and holes some putts.

He knows majority of the time playing like this will mean he shoots over par, but he doesn't mind that...cos shooting just under par will mean he probably won't win anyway
 

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How about another theory for why Rory scores high on final rounds...

He was 5 shots off the lead, and knew he needed to shoot low 60s to have a chance to win.

He doesn't care about coming 50th or 5th etc, that is the same to him, it is either win or don't win.

He then knows his only chance to win is to be hyper aggressive, go for every pin, smash every tee shot, and hope he gets the bounces and holes some putts.

He knows majority of the time playing like this will mean he shoots over par, but he doesn't mind that...cos shooting just under par will mean he probably won't win anyway
That explains his performances when like you say he’s adrift. But he hasn’t had too many Stellar performances on a Sunday when he’s been in the mix either.

Atm he seems to be shooting at every flag on every hole. Generally means he has one cracking round a week, but also a train wreck that takes him out.
 

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How about another theory for why Rory scores high on final rounds...

He was 5 shots off the lead, and knew he needed to shoot low 60s to have a chance to win.

He doesn't care about coming 50th or 5th etc, that is the same to him, it is either win or don't win.

He then knows his only chance to win is to be hyper aggressive, go for every pin, smash every tee shot, and hope he gets the bounces and holes some putts.

He knows majority of the time playing like this will mean he shoots over par, but he doesn't mind that...cos shooting just under par will mean he probably won't win anyway
Your probably right, however if that is the case then he clearly isn't playing the first 3 rounds we'll enough to put him in position where he doesn't have to go all out on Sundays.

His course management from the rounds I've seen this year for his level is awful, goes for every big drive and every flag. Yet sometimes the smart play is to put it 20feet or so away for outside birdie opportunity but guaranteed par, it. Takes the big number off the card. If he did that more and only attacked flags when the % is in his favour he probably be in the mix more often. But he is the world class player and knows a lot more than I do. I definetly think is a mental thing with him though
 

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How about another theory for why Rory scores high on final rounds...

He was 5 shots off the lead, and knew he needed to shoot low 60s to have a chance to win.

He doesn't care about coming 50th or 5th etc, that is the same to him, it is either win or don't win.

He then knows his only chance to win is to be hyper aggressive, go for every pin, smash every tee shot, and hope he gets the bounces and holes some putts.

He knows majority of the time playing like this will mean he shoots over par, but he doesn't mind that...cos shooting just under par will mean he probably won't win anyway
He plays rubbish on a Sunday even when he was leading on the Saturday!
 

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5th best scoring average on the PGA this year. And he plays all the premium events on PGA tour, and hardly ever plays the lesser events.

He didn't find his A game on a few keys sundays was the difference between this year and a phenomenal year.

But who cares about stats in the current year, can just form strong opinions from small sample sizes woooo

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5th best scoring average on the PGA this year. And he plays all the premium events on PGA tour, and hardly ever plays the lesser events.

He didn't find his A game on a few keys sundays was the difference between this year and a phenomenal year.

But who cares about stats in the current year, can just form strong opinions from small sample sizes woooo

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This proves absolutely nothing! We've all been saying how he puts two or three good rounds in and then does rubbish on Sunday. So of course his scoring average is high.
 

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5th best scoring average on the PGA this year. And he plays all the premium events on PGA tour, and hardly ever plays the lesser events.

He didn't find his A game on a few keys sundays was the difference between this year and a phenomenal year.

But who cares about stats in the current year, can just form strong opinions from small sample sizes woooo

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Your previous argument was that taking part doesn’t matter, now apparently consistency does?
When discussing the greats, only wins count.

Rory is still a quality player, but saying his scoring average is good, is imo a weak argument to try and prove the point.
 

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5th best scoring average on the PGA this year. And he plays all the premium events on PGA tour, and hardly ever plays the lesser events.

He didn't find his A game on a few keys sundays was the difference between this year and a phenomenal year.

But who cares about stats in the current year, can just form strong opinions from small sample sizes woooo

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Phenomenal year, you are joking are you not.

He is Mr consistent, consistently poor of that there can be no doubt
 

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Stats eh, funny old things

Rory's listed down at 212th this week for the same stat (with the same number of rounds played as the guys in positions 1 & 2 )
 

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How about another theory for why Rory scores high on final rounds...

He was 5 shots off the lead, and knew he needed to shoot low 60s to have a chance to win.

He doesn't care about coming 50th or 5th etc, that is the same to him, it is either win or don't win.

He then knows his only chance to win is to be hyper aggressive, go for every pin, smash every tee shot, and hope he gets the bounces and holes some putts.

He knows majority of the time playing like this will mean he shoots over par, but he doesn't mind that...cos shooting just under par will mean he probably won't win anyway

I don't disagree with this at all.

I think Rory has a real mindset problem.
He thinks he is good enough to win every tournament and really wants to shoot 66, or better, every round. Obviously he is capable of that, but a tournament is 4 days and you don't need to shoot 66 every round (well maybe in some of the US events).

He has to be more patient. Take the bogeys and double bogeys out of play and he would be well positioned for most tournaments by the time he has 18 holes left. Yes - he will probably make fewer birdies, but some weeks he will hole a pile of 20 footers from the safe side of a green and win out the park.

Padraig Harrington had a real theory about this, and Jack Nicklaus was similar. You get a lot of reward for hanging around. Eventually a number of people will play their way out of the event on the Sunday and if you are a couple of shots behind, you can capitalise without having to bust a course record. And of course the prize if it doesn't happen is pretty good - a second or third place finish.

Think of Justin Rose winning in Turkey the other week. He played that 18th hole par 4 so conservatively. Laying it back all 3 times on the Sunday, taking the trouble out of play and giving Haotong Li a big distance advantage each time. It must have been so tempting to smash a driver down there and give himself a short iron in. And ok, Li missed putts for the event, but Rose hung around and didn't make a big error and eventually the pressure told on Li.
 

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McIlroy for whatever reason seems to be making some poor decisions and brings the big numbers into play. It seems a trait in 2018 and whether that's how he feels it's best to play, poor advice from the caddy or a meltdown mentality it's hard to know. Clearly he has more than enough skill to win again, maybe even another major, but I feel something has to give first.
 
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