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What record of scores are kept - out of interest?
Roll up GP card submtting alongside team event
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woofers
Medal Winner
My post #4.
Reply from EG.
Last bullet point on the attachment seems to make it clear to me, “players may not choose to submit a general play card whilst playing in a team event”.
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Yes, at the moment written rules/advice available is not sufficient enough to prevent different interpretations. It was clear under CONGU, why should it change under WHS. EG need to give defining advice otherwise it just comes to opinions.
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It does to me, a blind team prize is the only option. If an organised group by members want to spread the winnings and enter GP cards, the use of a team prize can only be a random draw after play to know the other winners in a team.
wjemather
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Those who don't agree with the rules and/or guidance will always manage to misinterpret them to suit their opinions, no matter how clear and unambiguous they are.
Length
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Yes, I know but if clear rules are in place (they are not at the moment), any misinterpretation, because of an opinion, can quickly be corrected.
wjemather
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If that were true, most of of these threads wouldn't get past half a dozen posts.
Length
Newbie
I think most on this Forum have been around golf long enough to expect any Club with proper standards to at least advise their roll ups to adopt a BLIND team prize if they include members entering GP scores. Regardless of how clouded the rules or advice is?
wjemather
Well-known member
The evidence points to the contrary. Many would not welcome any kind of interference with their walled gardens.
Edit to add... there would be probably much less resistance if people actually read (and understood) the rules and guidance rather than going on ill-informed hearsay and the stream of misinformation from those acting in bad faith.
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3 jabber
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And quite rightly so when people are playing social golf.
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Newbie
In a book, winners scores and amount of cash won
wjemather
Well-known member
Thanks for illustrating my point.
3 jabber
Well-known member
You really have a problem differentiating between social and competitive golf. People talk about dress codes etc putting people off golf but you are doing a much better job.
wjemather
Well-known member
That's because all recreational amateur golf is social and fun, whether it's competitive or not - and that certainly includes all club competitions, matches and general play rounds.
It a shame that old-school thinking apparently prevents you from enjoying some of your golf - fyi, it's this kind of stuff that really turns people away from club golf.
Length
Newbie
Not much savvy is needed to realise the ones best to correspond with and the ones to ignore.
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
Surely that depends on each individual and how they see things
For many
Social golf with mates is the fun part
The competitions are the more serious for them
Backache
Assistant Pro
The thinking is for the person playing not for someone else to determine what they should be thinking. Some people find it more relaxing playing when not putting in a card. There really should be no obligation on them to do so if they are outwith a competition because for that individual it is a more enjoyable way to play whether or not someone else thinks it should be or not. It is not up to an organisation to be the fun police.
rulefan
Tour Winner
These rollup games seem to be designed to be pretty competitive.
Backache
Assistant Pro
Different roll ups have different levels of competition and different rules.
The latest missive from the powers that be exhort me to try for the best possible score on every hole every time I put in a card.
What happens if I play in a roll up and I don't do that . Should I or should I not put in a card?
wjemather
Well-known member
There is nothing new about this; it has been the case for a long time (yes, even before WHS came in) and explicitly one of your responsibilities as a player under the Rules of Handicapping in GB&I since November 2020.
