RIP Captain Sir Tom

[4LEX]

Hero to you......many others...just a real good guy. The term Hero (in my opinion) is overused as the media always does this on someone they fixate on.

Some.....are taking this opinion as an insult. It is NOT meant that way. Just being in the military does not make you a hero. I worked as a civilian in the military for almost 30 years.....lots of them were very good people.....hero's? Didn't know any. Good people.....lots.

Being old and raising money for good causes....awesome.

The term hero is overused these days but if Sir Tom isn't a hero in your eyes, care to name a dozen who would make the grade?

 

[Deleted member 1147]

Hero to you......many others...just a real good guy. The term Hero (in my opinion) is overused as the media always does this on someone they fixate on.

Some.....are taking this opinion as an insult. It is NOT meant that way. Just being in the military does not make you a hero. I worked as a civilian in the military for almost 30 years.....lots of them were very good people.....hero's? Didn't know any. Good people.....lots.

Being old and raising money for good causes....awesome.

Not quite the same as fighting in the Burma Campaign is it?

 

[Mandofred]

The term hero is overused these days but if Sir Tom isn't a hero in your eyes, care to name a dozen who would make the grade?

Why? If I put out a name you don't like.....you will slate them.....

But what the heck, how about these people? https://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/unknown-military-heroes/

 

[3offTheTee]

I was mistaken that he had a publicly funded holiday. I apologise for that mistake. I am also sorry he died because he did a lot for society this year.

And that’s the last I’ll say on this subject.

Well said young man. Appreciate your comment

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Why? If I put out a name you don't like.....you will slate them.....

But what the heck, how about these people? https://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/unknown-military-heroes/

Have some respect, this thread is about forum members paying their respect to Captain Sir Tom, it’s not about others or whether you agree or not with a definition of a word we choose to use.

Start another thread if you feel that strongly about it! The poor bloke only been deceased 2 days and some want to disect his legacy!

 

[Mandofred]

Have some respect, this thread is about forum members paying their respect to Captain Sir Tom, it’s not about others or whether you agree or not with a definition of a word we choose to use.

Start another thread if you feel that strongly about it! The poor bloke only been deceased 2 days and some want to disect his legacy!

How....literally how...have I disrespected Captain Tom? In......any way?

 

[Jimaroid]

I think it’s time for this thread to get a do-over. It’s become an embarrassment.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

How....literally how...have I disrespected Captain Tom? In......any way?

Read your last post, what has that got to do with Sir Tom? All you are trying and failing to do is prove your point on the use of the word Hero.

To millions of us he is a Hero, we don’t need you telling us the word is over used or quoteing some American website to prove what you think.

 

[Mandofred]

Read your last post, what has that got to do with Sir Tom? All you are trying and failing to do is prove your point on the use of the word Hero.

To millions of us he is a Hero, we don’t need you telling us the word is over used or quoteing some American website to prove what you think.

Fair enough. Was there something wrong with quoting "some American website"? A website that included people (possibly "heroes"...as I was asked to do) from a number of different countries including the UK?

I have not in any way disrespected Tom.....only in your mind have I done so.

 

[PhilTheFragger]

Oi you 2
Can it please

Not the time or the place

 

[chellie]

2 reasons why
1) by the time it was reported, it had been quoted many times, commented on and it’s therefore a major clean up operation

2) It was important to show that The Forum was outraged with the comments and this has resulted in the poster issuing an apology which is good to see.

A reminder to check facts, not jump to conclusions and not to be deliberately controversial are lessons we can all benefit from.

Additionally, considering his recent bereavement, we have cut him a bit of slack, but I don’t think there is much slack left.

Hope that gives you the view from the Mod side

I Mod elsewhere on a huge forum so know what a PITA it can be cleaning up threads and Modding. Still stand my by comment.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Oi you 2
Can it please

Not the time or the place

Would be ideal if you deleted some posts, those disrespectful ones that took it off topic.

 

[Robster59]

Forums amaze me. A thread that started as a tribute and sign of respect to someone starts spinning off at all angles with people having their own arguments. Why not just message each other if you feel that strongly? Not everybody wants to read the argument.

 

[SocketRocket]

I was mistaken that he had a publicly funded holiday. I apologise for that mistake. I am also sorry he died because he did a lot for society this year.

And that’s the last I’ll say on this subject.

Thank you.

 

[Jamesbrown]

A big difference between a 100 year old war hero who had inspired a nation and raised over £30m for the NHS. Vs some botox filled pea brain who wants to pose in a bikini, lilke hunt on the 'Gram and do work they could do at home. That was a once in a lifetime dream for him and a thank you from BA, as others have said

No difference at all. With that logic anybody who has done charitable deeds should go on holiday.
But I wasn’t criticising his trip. Everybody can go on holiday for all I care. Happy for anyone to escape and do what they like. My post was highlighting the lack of balance and hypocrisy.

 

[SocketRocket]

No difference at all. With that logic anybody who has done charitable deeds should go on holiday.
But I wasn’t criticising his trip. Everybody can go on holiday for all I care. Happy for anyone to escape and do what they like. My post was highlighting the lack of balance and hypocrisy.

And completely unnecessary.

 

[4LEX]

No difference at all. With that logic anybody who has done charitable deeds should go on holiday.
But I wasn’t criticising his trip. Everybody can go on holiday for all I care. Happy for anyone to escape and do what they like. My post was highlighting the lack of balance and hypocrisy.

There is a huge difference and if you can't see that then I wish you all the best in life because you'll need it with such a distorted outlook.

It wasn't a holiday in the the sense of a jolly. He was 100 and was close to the end of his life anyway, it was a final farewell and a thank you when it was safe and paid for by a private airline, even if it's a national flag carrier. BA are in trouble anyway with 40% of Business fares cancelled (soon to emerge).

How can you compare it to an influencer jetting off for their own vanity to pose in Dubai is mindboggling. I was going to Dubai for two months in January and cancelled it as it wasn't morally right. You're a wrong'un using this as a cheap shot at Sir Tom. Pathetic.

 

[Jamesbrown]

There is a huge difference and if you can't see that then I wish you all the best in life because you'll need it with such a distorted outlook.

It wasn't a holiday in the the sense of a jolly. He was 100 and was close to the end of his life anyway, it was a final farewell and a thank you when it was safe and paid for by a private airline, even if it's a national flag carrier. BA are in trouble anyway with 40% of Business fares cancelled (soon to emerge).

How can you compare it to an influencer jetting off for their own vanity to pose in Dubai is mindboggling. I was going to Dubai for two months in January and cancelled it as it wasn't morally right. You're a wrong'un using this as a cheap shot at Sir Tom. Pathetic.

It wasn’t a cheap shot at sir tom. it was a shot at the forumers who criticised another member for going away and also influencers.
I’m glad he got to get away, as I’m glad anyone else and don’t blame them. Pity those who choose to stay at home rather than get away. Who knows could be your obituary tomorrow.

 

[Blue in Munich]

It wasn’t a cheap shot at sir tom. it was a shot at the forumers who criticised another member for going away and also influencers.
I’m glad he got to get away, as I’m glad anyone else and don’t blame them. Pity those who choose to stay at home rather than get away. Who knows could be your obituary tomorrow.

He wasn't criticised for going away; he was criticised for lecturing others not to travel when he was the other side of the Atlantic, otherwise known as hypocrisy.

 

[sunshine]

Wow this has gone off topic.

Capt sir Tom was truly inspirational, incredible achievement in the last year of his life. A real hero in my eyes.

He had a good innings, better to celebrate the life rather than mourn the loss.