RIP Captain Sir Tom

[Jamesbrown]

I think the general point that @Kellfire is alluding to (and that IMO shouldn't be framed in the context of Capt Tom) is that of it being very important that 'fairness' across the board in what we do and we can do, needs to be seen to be maintained. So all have to be very careful about making exceptions for specific individuals to important pandemic rules that we are having to live under. There seem to be too many of us out there keen and willing to exploit any perceived 'hole' in the rules or 'inequality' in how the rules are applied.

God bless you Captn Tom. Prayers of thanks from me.

Noticed the lack of fairness when some on here where only week ago lambasting “influencers” and other forum members last year for jetting off but then say it’s okay for Sir tom as he did a very good deed. Abit of balance wouldn’t go a miss. But probably no need to bring it up in an obituary page. Irritation page would of be better as would this I guess.

 

[SocketRocket]

Noticed the lack of fairness when some on here where only week ago lambasting “influencers” and other forum members last year for jetting off but then say it’s okay for Sir tom as he did a very good deed. Abit of balance wouldn’t go a miss. But probably no need to bring it up in an obituary page. Irritation page would of be better as would this I guess.

The comment was referring to a public paid holiday which is not correct. Maybe an apology for that would suffice.

 

[brendy]

The comment was referring to a public paid holiday which is not correct. Maybe an apology for that would suffice.

To who? with the greatest respect, the person in question is deceased and their family are blissfully unaware of this comment. I think just getting things straight before posting in future is enough in this instance.

 

[Robster59]

There's always one.....

Yeah, but it's sad that continues to be the case.

 

[SocketRocket]

To who? with the greatest respect, the person in question is deceased and their family are blissfully unaware of this comment. I think just getting things straight before posting in future is enough in this instance.

I found and I assume others found his remark to be offensive and disrespectful. What's wrong with asking someone who posts a disparaging untrue comment about a deceased national hero to take it back?

 

[brendy]

@SocketRocket I don't find it offensive, poor taste yes and just another sample of the way current culture is tainted by disinformation. I would treat future posts with a sense of dismissal, when truths can be found so easily online it says something about the poster when they decide to not spend 20 seconds researching using the vast amount of resources. I do not need an apology from that type of person.

 

[SocketRocket]

@SocketRocket I don't find it offensive, poor taste yes and just another sample of the way current culture is tainted by disinformation. I would treat future posts with a sense of dismissal, when truths can be found so easily online it says something about the poster when they decide to not spend 20 seconds researching using the vast amount of resources. I do not need an apology from that type of person.

With due respect you can find it any way you like, I take offense to it because I don't like the context that tries to rubbish such a genuine and good person.

 

[chellie]

I'm shocked that the factually incorrect post is still on the forum.

 

[theoneandonly]

I'm shocked that the factually incorrect post is still on the forum.

The forum is littered with factually incorrect posts and plenty of insulting and offensive references to many high profile persons, you'd need to do an awful lot of deleting if that's your baseline

 

[Kellfire]

I was mistaken that he had a publicly funded holiday. I apologise for that mistake. I am also sorry he died because he did a lot for society this year.

And that’s the last I’ll say on this subject.

 

[Mandofred]

I really dislike the use of "hero". My definition of hero and most others seem to be different. Sir Tom.....did a good thing and from what I've read was a decent fellow. Hero? There are literally thousands of people doing at least as much for other people in this country, and without Knighthood or any media attention.

Wish you well Tom.....you did good. Lot's of others not getting attention doing "good" as well.

 

[PhilTheFragger]

I'm shocked that the factually incorrect post is still on the forum.

2 reasons why
1) by the time it was reported, it had been quoted many times, commented on and it’s therefore a major clean up operation

2) It was important to show that The Forum was outraged with the comments and this has resulted in the poster issuing an apology which is good to see.

A reminder to check facts, not jump to conclusions and not to be deliberately controversial are lessons we can all benefit from.

Additionally, considering his recent bereavement, we have cut him a bit of slack, but I don’t think there is much slack left.

Hope that gives you the view from the Mod side

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I really dislike the use of "hero". My definition of hero and most others seem to be different. Sir Tom.....did a good thing and from what I've read was a decent fellow. Hero? There are literally thousands of people doing at least as much for other people in this country, and without Knighthood or any media attention.

Wish you well Tom.....you did good. Lot's of others not getting attention doing "good" as well.

Name 1 other 100yr old WW2 Veteran that raised over 30 million pound?

Nobody doubts or denies there are thousands doing “good” none have reached his exposure or captured the heart of the Nation like he did, and, it’s not a competition!

 

[Deleted member 1147]

I really dislike the use of "hero". My definition of hero and most others seem to be different. Sir Tom.....did a good thing and from what I've read was a decent fellow. Hero? There are literally thousands of people doing at least as much for other people in this country, and without Knighthood or any media attention.

Wish you well Tom.....you did good. Lot's of others not getting attention doing "good" as well.

You know he got the Captain bit due to his military service, from the 1941-45 war.
War Hero perhaps ?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I really dislike the use of "hero". My definition of hero and most others seem to be different. Sir Tom.....did a good thing and from what I've read was a decent fellow. Hero? There are literally thousands of people doing at least as much for other people in this country, and without Knighthood or any media attention.

Wish you well Tom.....you did good. Lot's of others not getting attention doing "good" as well.

Well for

1. He was a captain during WW2 so straight away that makes him a hero

2. As a 99 year old he decided to walk to raise money and ended up raising £33mil

Many others who are doing good are also being praised

Capt Tom was a hero to us all for his actions during WW2 let alone being an inspiration for millions other

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Well for

1. He was a captain during WW2 so straight away that makes him a hero

2. As a 99 year old he decided to walk to raise money and ended up raising £33mil

Many others who are doing good are also being praised

Capt Tom was a hero to us all for his actions during WW2 let alone being an inspiration for millions other

He is a hero for number 1 for sure
Number 2 is 50/50, he only raised so much because the media saw it as a great story so jumped on it and it went viral

Respect to him for doing it but for once without the media wouldn't even know who sir tom was

 

[Deleted member 16999]

He is a hero for number 1 for sure
Number 2 is 50/50, he only raised so much because the media saw it as a great story so jumped on it and it went viral

Respect to him for doing it but for once without the media wouldn't even know who sir tom was

The media certainly helped, but it was the people who responded and took him to their hearts, the media highlight lots of great stories without getting the response from the general public he got.

 

[Mandofred]

Well for

1. He was a captain during WW2 so straight away that makes him a hero

2. As a 99 year old he decided to walk to raise money and ended up raising £33mil

Many others who are doing good are also being praised

Capt Tom was a hero to us all for his actions during WW2 let alone being an inspiration for millions other

Hero to you......many others...just a real good guy. The term Hero (in my opinion) is overused as the media always does this on someone they fixate on.

Some.....are taking this opinion as an insult. It is NOT meant that way. Just being in the military does not make you a hero. I worked as a civilian in the military for almost 30 years.....lots of them were very good people.....hero's? Didn't know any. Good people.....lots.

Being old and raising money for good causes....awesome.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

The media certainly helped, but it was the people who responded and took him to their hearts, the media highlight lots of great stories without getting the response from the general public he got.

Probably because he was a lovely old man who served his country, that lifted the sprites during the first lockdown for sure.

The perfect storm for sure.

 

[4LEX]

Noticed the lack of fairness when some on here where only week ago lambasting “influencers” and other forum members last year for jetting off but then say it’s okay for Sir tom as he did a very good deed. Abit of balance wouldn’t go a miss. But probably no need to bring it up in an obituary page. Irritation page would of be better as would this I guess.

A big difference between a 100 year old war hero who had inspired a nation and raised over £30m for the NHS. Vs some botox filled pea brain who wants to pose in a bikini, lilke hunt on the 'Gram and do work they could do at home. That was a once in a lifetime dream for him and a thank you from BA, as others have said