williamalex1
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Rangers in Trouble Again
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And what impact will the arrival of these 5 lads have on the on/off field harmony/dressing room/team spirit etc (especially given the coaches comment that he's being told to play them)
Will they be welcomed into the team by the existing players or will it create tensions and splits?
Will they be welcomed into the team by the existing players or will it create tensions and splits?
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c1973
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If they got us through the play offs it would be seen as a stroke of genius......doubt we will though.
I'm wondering if we got these guys on the understanding that Newcastle would continue to pay their wages, provided we actually play them. Hence the gaffer being told we've got such n such a player but you have to play them.
Personally ( if he's been told straight out 'you must play these 5 every week ) I think he should have walked there and then. Surely his proffesional pride would have led him to that decision?
Shambolic doesn't really cover it at the moment. How the Easdales (Rangers fans, allegedly) can look themselves in the eye is beyond me. Potential investors have been snubbed and/or treated diabolically. The sooner the EGM is called and these charlatans are out on their arse, the better.
We'll be back at the top soon enough, getting there was never going to be easy nor was it going to be a smooth ride, but get there we will.
Though the straits be broad or narrow....
I'm wondering if we got these guys on the understanding that Newcastle would continue to pay their wages, provided we actually play them. Hence the gaffer being told we've got such n such a player but you have to play them.
Personally ( if he's been told straight out 'you must play these 5 every week ) I think he should have walked there and then. Surely his proffesional pride would have led him to that decision?
Shambolic doesn't really cover it at the moment. How the Easdales (Rangers fans, allegedly) can look themselves in the eye is beyond me. Potential investors have been snubbed and/or treated diabolically. The sooner the EGM is called and these charlatans are out on their arse, the better.
We'll be back at the top soon enough, getting there was never going to be easy nor was it going to be a smooth ride, but get there we will.
Though the straits be broad or narrow....
No. He paid too much for Newcastle, didn't do his homework and found they were massively in debt. He has cleared that debt with an interest free loan. He wants to get back what he paid plus the loan money. All seems fair enough. Unfortunately that means the sale price for Newcastle is too high and no one will pay it, it was on the market for a few years with no takers.
Perhaps he is relying on the new tv deal, due any day, increasing the value of clubs to such a degree that someone will finally pay the amount he is asking. From what is reported he is not looking to make a profit, just recover his outlay.
Newcastle have a virtually guaranteed 50,000 ticket sales per home game, high percentage of season tickets, huge shirt sale numbers, modern stadium with no upgrading needed and so are a good buy. At the right price! A bit like Rangers really.
Val
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I bet you never expected the infighting you have had though, the football side should have taken care of itself but the financial side and struggle for control is just beyond belief.
FairwayDodger
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Problem was the guys who got control were only ever in it for themselves and bled the club dry. Combine that with a flawed approach with the playing squad in the lower divisions and the initial investment didn't last long.
Hearts were probably in an even bigger mess than us when they went bust but the right people came in and have done a good job there. I'm pretty envious of that.
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c1973
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I actually did Val (well after Charlie Green anyway), perhaps not to the extent we've seen though......in fact nowhere near the extent it is if I'm being honest. Remember we saw it with Celtic in the late 80s early 90s, but nowhere near as bad as us to be fair, so it's not a surprise to see a power struggle for a massive club. It's shameful though it really is.
I'd actually wipe all their names from the official history of the club tbh.
I'm still of the opinion that the jury is out on Ashley (with me anyway), I can see King working with him and have said as much for a wee while now. If he could get shot of Newcastle then he may not be a bad thing, he runs a tight ship and not a Shi.... ye know the rest.
He wants Sports Direct known in Europe. There is more chance of that happening in the medium/long term through Rangers than Newcastle (giving all due respect to Newcastle here). That's why I think he may be here for the long haul. I'm not happy with the deal on the retail side, but we have been doing that since Murray was there, think people forget that at times.
Val
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I actually did Val (well after Charlie Green anyway), perhaps not to the extent we've seen though......in fact nowhere near the extent it is if I'm being honest. Remember we saw it with Celtic in the late 80s early 90s, but nowhere near as bad as us to be fair, so it's not a surprise to see a power struggle for a massive club. It's shameful though it really is.
I'd actually wipe all their names from the official history of the club tbh.
I'm still of the opinion that the jury is out on Ashley (with me anyway), I can see King working with him and have said as much for a wee while now. If he could get shot of Newcastle then he may not be a bad thing, he runs a tight ship and not a Shi.... ye know the rest.
He wants Sports Direct known in Europe. There is more chance of that happening in the medium/long term through Rangers than Newcastle (giving all due respect to Newcastle here). That's why I think he may be here for the long haul. I'm not happy with the deal on the retail side, but we have been doing that since Murray was there, think people forget that at times.
That wouldn't leave anyone on it
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Doon frae Troon
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Hearts were forced to play youngsters, a couple of years ago the average age of the teams sent out was 23.
Those youngsters took their chance and some have turned out decent players, some were sold on for give away prices.
The team really bonded in adversity.
Rangers brought in a pile of over the hill overpriced 'stars' who looked unfit and with not ready for a fight.
They also misjudged the quality of second tier Scottish football. They thought it would be a stroll.
There is a possibility of them not being promoted from the Championship this year, that would be a disaster for them but not Scottish football.
Hearts owner Anne Budge has stated that if Hearts are promoted it would be a bonus as they had prepared for two years in the Championship.
Those youngsters took their chance and some have turned out decent players, some were sold on for give away prices.
The team really bonded in adversity.
Rangers brought in a pile of over the hill overpriced 'stars' who looked unfit and with not ready for a fight.
They also misjudged the quality of second tier Scottish football. They thought it would be a stroll.
There is a possibility of them not being promoted from the Championship this year, that would be a disaster for them but not Scottish football.
Hearts owner Anne Budge has stated that if Hearts are promoted it would be a bonus as they had prepared for two years in the Championship.
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c1973
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Thing is, they got a lot of their debt wiped and had a bank that worked with them ( did Salmond have influence?).
We had a Government agency trying to use us an example and test case so they could go after others off the back of the expected (not achieved) result. If HMRC had accepted the proposal put forward (like they did with others) then we would still be in the top tier and they would have got a cash settlement, instead of losing the tribunal. Everyone would have won.
Different circumstances.
That's not excusing Green etc btw.
Anyway, that debates been done to death.
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Doon frae Troon
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Oh dear, the Raith Street Dancers are at it again.
Rangers bumped ooot the cup.
No real surprise to many except the BBC commentary team who seem to have it down as a shock result.
I am considering to think about starting to feel sorry for them now.
Rangers bumped ooot the cup.
No real surprise to many except the BBC commentary team who seem to have it down as a shock result.
I am considering to think about starting to feel sorry for them now.
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c1973
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Could set your watch to it, you really could.
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ger147
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I'm fairly sure the majority of their fans couldn't care less about today's result. All of my Rangers supporting friends just want the EGM done and hopefully the current board removed so they can perhaps have the opportunity to get behind an owner and a board who will run their club properly after all the crap of recent years.
Foxholer
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Seems pretty much the case to me.
However Rangers's approach and their attitude to the rest of SPL seem to have meant they got treated differently to Hearts, who found a White Knight (Maiden) and have been turned around rather well!
I'm pretty sure that after this very public feuding, Rangers will survive, be promoted next year and become a serious influence again. Just exactly who will be running it is still a bit of a guess, but I'm moving more towards King being OK-ed by SPL and tend to agree with C1973's post on Ashley's motives too!
Doon frae Troon
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How on earth can they get away with holding the EGM in London.
After the tent episode you would think that they would have learned something.
They seem to be trying to totally isolate the entire Rangers support.
FairwayDodger
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It's not only holding it in London.... It was originally going to be 6th March (a Friday) but got moved to the 4th when someone realised that would make it even harder for shareholders to travel from Glasgow since they would need two days off work if combining it with an overnight stay.
The board have complete disdain for the supporters, sooner they are removed the better!
Val
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I said it before about Ashley, he wants the sport direct brand on the big European stage, he'll have more chance withRangers but he has a bigger struggle than that to overcome at Rangers first.
FairwayDodger
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No way Rangers will succeed with Ashley in charge. 11,000 turned up for the game today, fans aren't going back until the board are ousted....
Val
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Sometimes you need to careful what you wish for, you might just get it and regret it.
