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Random Irritations

Liverpoolphil said:
Sorry but care to explain ? People have committed suicide because of online bullying. The written word can be as powerful as what is said when it comes to bullying people. But if you think it’s a crock then maybe go and explain that to lots of young people who have suffered badly because of it.
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No need to keep apologising.
If you are suffering from "on-line bullying" just delete your account, job done, simple.(y)
 
Orikoru said:
Why would you delete the whole of social media? If someone is being bullied on social media and can't handle it I have a great solution for them - don't go on social media.
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Slab said:
I read a little bit about that. Difficult to imagine the mindset needed in order to believe (or give credence to) what a bully posts online

I don’t understand the mindset needed to spend time bullying someone and making these kind of derogatory comments (presumably for personal amusement) Neither do I understand why someone would start their day actively seeking out negative comments posted online by faceless individuals

In the real world that’d be like going round to the bully’s house every morning asking ‘what do you think today?
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Lord Tyrion said:
I started typing, deleted, repeat a few times in answer to the original comment. I went on a bit of a rant about the whole subject and realised it was not so good. The calm version is I agree with what you have said. If you live your life through social media there are some unpleasant sides to it. Not everything can be 'like' and praise. It goes with the territory, accept it, scroll past or give it up. I particluarly find it grating when some of those complaining about the pressure of social media are ones who post regular scantily clad pictures of themselves which in there own right put pressure on young girls. Take a look at what you post yourselves would be a good starting point.

No excuse for the morons who post the bullying messages but accept they are morons and move on.
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Orikoru said:
Agree. In many walks of life there are forms of bullying that hard to deal with and hard to get away from. To my mind, 'cyber' bullying doesn't quite fit that bill - if you don't have a thick enough skin to let negative comments be water off a duck's back, then you can turn it off. Just log out. Nobody NEEDS to be on Facebook or Instagram or whatever.
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Jeez that is a run of absolutely terrible posts! The 1970s want their thoughts back.

Let's focus completely on the victim and not on a real solution to a very serious societal problem in 2019 eh??!

I hope nobody you care about experiences anything like what Jesy Nelson or thousands of kids do every single day online.
 
TheDiablo said:
Jeez that is a run of absolutely terrible posts! The 1970s want their thoughts back.

Let's focus completely on the victim and not on a real solution to a very serious societal problem in 2019 eh??!

I hope nobody you care about experiences anything like what Jesy Nelson or thousands of kids do every single day online.
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Go on then mate, give us the answer? We're waiting?
 
Orikoru said:
Go on then mate, give us the answer? We're waiting?
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To what question?

Whatever it is, it certainly isn't to blame the victims.

Here's one for you. Should black footballers avoid playing for Inter Milan?

You and the other posts are basically offering the Bonucci form of defense - blame the victim. It's utterly despicable.
 
TheDiablo said:
To what question?

Whatever it is, it certainly isn't to blame the victims.

Here's one for you. Should black footballers avoid playing for Inter Milan?

You and the other posts are basically offering the Bonucci form of defense - blame the victim. It's utterly despicable.
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I find that those who don't understand the effects of bullying on someone have tended to be the bullys themselves at some point in their life.
 
TheDiablo said:
To what question?

Whatever it is, it certainly isn't to blame the victims.

Here's one for you. Should black footballers avoid playing for Inter Milan?

You and the other posts are basically offering the Bonucci form of defense - blame the victim. It's utterly despicable.
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No I offered a solution. Not a perfect one but the best I could think of. You've done nothing but shoot down three other people's thoughts on the subject.
 
Orikoru said:
No I offered a solution. Not a perfect one but the best I could think of. You've done nothing but shoot down three other people's thoughts on the subject.
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Your 'solution' involved forcing the victim into something they probably don't want. I don't claim to be an expert, but I know for a fact blaming the victim isn't the answer.

Even Hitler had a 'solution.' it doesn't make him right.

Care to answer the question I actually posed?
 
TheDiablo said:
Jeez that is a run of absolutely terrible posts! The 1970s want their thoughts back.

Let's focus completely on the victim and not on a real solution to a very serious societal problem in 2019 eh??!

I hope nobody you care about experiences anything like what Jesy Nelson or thousands of kids do every single day online.
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I don't think I focused completely on the victim, perhaps you only chose to recall that portion from my post, so be it

While its certainly not a 50/50 split and is definitely weighted towards the bully holding responsibility, sometimes people can and do voluntarily put themselves into situations where the chance of becoming a victim is increased, to deny that seems weird
 
Slab said:
I don't think I focused completely on the victim, perhaps you only chose to recall that portion from my post, so be it

While its certainly not a 50/50 split and is definitely weighted towards the bully holding responsibility, sometimes people can and do voluntarily put themselves into situations where the chance of becoming a victim is increased, to deny that seems weird
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I agree with you somewhat. Far too many people say we shouldn’t “victim blame” but it’s erroneous to suggest that people shouldn’t take steps to ensure their own safety.
 
Orikoru said:
Why would you delete the whole of social media? If someone is being bullied on social media and can't handle it I have a great solution for them - don't go on social media.
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You are trying to find a perfect solution when their isn't one here. Peer pressure takes over.

A feature of life is predators and prey. If you know who the predators are the brain may be able to cope. It has not evolved to cope with invisible predators.

2 recent news items:
One reason why virtual friends are a problem is that the more of them you have the less likely you are to bond with a real person.
Mothers who indulge in social media are more likely to ignore their kids.
 
If your online account (twitter,instagram, etc) is subject to "cyber-bullying" just delete that account and open a new one, or even better stop using those accounts that are subjected to the abuse. It really is that simple.:rolleyes:
Don't go online.(y)
 
Unless they’ve incited the name calling/bullying etc folks shouldn’t really need to delete accounts/stop using online services (perhaps social media companies will be mandated to have teams of Mods to deal with bullies)

Ideally they would also all be subscription based to prevent multiple alias accounts etc

Although I read this lady simply googled her own name each day adding other search words like fat, ugly etc and then read the results. I’m not sure I see the need to subject yourself to that and I'd suggest behaviour like that is not normal
 
Scrotie McBoogerballs said:
If your online account (twitter,instagram, etc) is subject to "cyber-bullying" just delete that account and open a new one, or even better stop using those accounts that are subjected to the abuse. It really is that simple.:rolleyes:
Don't go online.(y)
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It’s not “really that simple” - that’s allowing the bully’s to dictate their life. No one should have to stop doing what they enjoy because someone is bullying them - the bully should be stopped and removed not the victim
 
Liverpoolphil said:
It’s not “really that simple” - that’s allowing the bully’s to dictate their life. No one should have to stop doing what they enjoy because someone is bullying them - the bully should be stopped and removed not the victim
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Everyone deserves a life and our brief walk in the sun.
It's a pity we are not all educated to the standard of knowing what life actually is.

“We are going to die, and that makes us the lucky ones. Most people are never going to die because they are never going to be born. The potential people who could have been here in my place but who will in fact never see the light of day outnumber the sand grains of Arabia. Certainly those unborn ghosts include greater poets than Keats, scientists greater than Newton. We know this because the set of possible people allowed by our DNA so massively exceeds the set of actual people. In the teeth of these stupefying odds it is you and I, in our ordinariness, that are here." (Richard Dawkins, from Unweaving the Rainbow which should be read and understood by all).
 
Scrotie McBoogerballs said:
If your online account (twitter,instagram, etc) is subject to "cyber-bullying" just delete that account and open a new one, or even better stop using those accounts that are subjected to the abuse. It really is that simple.:rolleyes:
Don't go online.(y)
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Translate that to someone who is bullied in real life and then the equivalent action is to kill themselves.

Middle ground needed here...
 
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