Kellfire
Blackballed
You’re in remission. It will come back. TRUST ME.
Random Irritations
- Thread starter Blue in Munich
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You’re in remission. It will come back. TRUST ME.
its like Malaria, you are never cured...
Wolf
Well-known member
Surely it's more like Herpes, you catch it doing something you don't have to be good at to enjoy, then hope to god nobody ever sees it or catches it from you, but it's always there waiting to flare up 🤔its like Malaria, you are never cured...
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Simple. We have some quite long greens (though in the scheme of things they are quite small). But - say - let's take our par 3 13th. It's 166yds to the middle of the green. The hole is dead flat; green is say 50yds long and the green and bottom of the flag are completely out of sight due to a raised cross-bunker. Flag just on - plays 140yds; flag at back - plays 190yds. Now even I can choose different clubs for 140yds and 190yds. I ended up just hitting it to the middle.
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Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
I mean per tour not just per night. A lot of bands will keep the same setlist every night for a whole tour. They may choose to take out a song that they played on the previous tour if they're a bit bored of playing it.
The ones he quoted are hardly the biggest hits though. I mean here's a list of how many times Bon Jovi has played all his songs, 'Dry County' (which I've never heard of) comes in at #48: https://www.setlist.fm/stats/bon-jovi-33d6b851.html There are even four covers he's played more times than that. As the old saying goes, you can't please all of the people all of the time. If he didn't play Living On A Prayer then you'd probably have a case.
I, and plenty of other fans, don't actually care about how many times he has played Dry County; we are more concerned with how many times he hasn't played Dry County. Many consider it the best song by some distance on the Keep the Faith album, and are mystified as to why it is not played more. Perhaps you could give your "I've never heard of it" comment some context; how many Bon Jovi albums have you got, how many Bon Jovi gigs have you been to?
Your answer is that it is the 48th most played song so why should they, a case based on numbers. So let's play your game then; the 48th most played song isn't there because it is only the 48th most played song. However that night's set list contained the songs at 69th, 75th and =85th in terms of number of times played, yet your argument considers the 48th most played not fit for inclusion; so why these and not the 48th ranked? Whilst Captain Crash ranks higher than 48th, the exodus to the bars and toilets when it starts should be all the evidence you need as to why it shouldn't be in a set list. As far as the These Days album goes, 4 songs rank above 69th for the number of plays, so why not them? And going down that list, I've been there when he has played songs ranked as low as =252nd in terms of plays; so remind me again why being the 48th most played song is a good reason for excluding it (apart from the fact that you've never heard of it)?
So you know the song you're talking about, here's a link;
Orikoru
Tour Winner
No I'm not a big fan of Bon Jovi, but you have to concede that for an artist of his stature, a fair percentage of his audience will be people like me, who only know the hits they've heard on the radio. So firstly he's going to ensure those hits are in the set, and the rest are at the whim of what he feels like playing really.
I think you've missed my point. I mean if your favourite song was one they play 95% of the time, and they left it out, you could definitely feel a bit miffed. But the fact is they don't often play the song, so you could hardly have expected to hear it anyway. You're still disappointed, but at least there's a bit of context for you to not get your hopes as high. Given it's status, I'd be more inclined to be surprised and happy if it was played, rather than disappointed when it isn't.
There are countless reasons why an artist might leave out a song. Noel Gallagher for example, has stated he hates Oasis' third album Be Here Now because he was on drugs when it was made and finds it over-indulgent in retrospect, as a result he rarely played many songs from it in later years. Ultimately every artist has to strike a balance between songs the fans like, but also the songs they actually enjoy playing. Lest it become a chore.
Thanks for the link to the song, I had a listen while I was writing that. Quite a nice tune, but not really up there with his best hits for me.
GG26
Challenge Tour Pro
Carrying on the Bon Jovi discussion, I’ve only seen them once way back in 1989 and remember being unhappy for three reasons.
1. We were all waiting for Living on a Prayer and they sit down and play a slow acoustic version towards the end of the show.
2. The sound quality was awful (was at the NEC and never had that problem at many other gigs there). Very tinny sound.
3. They only played for 75 mins
1. We were all waiting for Living on a Prayer and they sit down and play a slow acoustic version towards the end of the show.
2. The sound quality was awful (was at the NEC and never had that problem at many other gigs there). Very tinny sound.
3. They only played for 75 mins
upsidedown
Tour Winner
Using the Esso App to find my nearest Esso station to utlise my Esso fuel card , cheaper then SM fuel and get there to find it's a BP 
Piece
Tour Winner
People shutting the doors without turning the handle down. It makes an unnecessary clunk during meetings.
BubbaP
Occasional Player of Golf
Number 5 might need elaborating on... 🙂
GreiginFife
Money List Winner
RBS. Applied for balance transfer card, they transfer the balance as requested and then tell me it's not a balance transfer card and has 11.9% on transfers...
So their "solution" to their mistake... I should apply for the BT card (that I already applied for) then transfer the balance when (if) it goes through and then cancel the non BT card.
Completely ignoring the fact that this would affect my credit file as well, potentially, as my employment. You couldn't make it up
Needless to say complaint raised but knowing RBS I can see this going to either FOS or the FCA.
So their "solution" to their mistake... I should apply for the BT card (that I already applied for) then transfer the balance when (if) it goes through and then cancel the non BT card.
Completely ignoring the fact that this would affect my credit file as well, potentially, as my employment. You couldn't make it up
Needless to say complaint raised but knowing RBS I can see this going to either FOS or the FCA.
Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
No I'm not a big fan of Bon Jovi, but you have to concede that for an artist of his stature, a fair percentage of his audience will be people like me, who only know the hits they've heard on the radio. So firstly he's going to ensure those hits are in the set, and the rest are at the whim of what he feels like playing really.
I think you've missed my point. I mean if your favourite song was one they play 95% of the time, and they left it out, you could definitely feel a bit miffed. But the fact is they don't often play the song, so you could hardly have expected to hear it anyway. You're still disappointed, but at least there's a bit of context for you to not get your hopes as high. Given it's status, I'd be more inclined to be surprised and happy if it was played, rather than disappointed when it isn't.
There are countless reasons why an artist might leave out a song. Noel Gallagher for example, has stated he hates Oasis' third album Be Here Now because he was on drugs when it was made and finds it over-indulgent in retrospect, as a result he rarely played many songs from it in later years. Ultimately every artist has to strike a balance between songs the fans like, but also the songs they actually enjoy playing. Lest it become a chore.
Thanks for the link to the song, I had a listen while I was writing that. Quite a nice tune, but not really up there with his best hits for me.
No, I haven't missed the point.
It was a 22 song set. Using the most played ranking list the top 10, 12th & 14th position songs are in it. So if I accept your argument that the audience will be made up of a lot of people who only know his hits, I'd say they are catered for, and there is space to spare. However given the cost of the tickets I'm not sure how many people were in there who weren't fairly keen fans and would therefore have known it.
As to the "status" of Dry County as a song, a song which you'd never heard of prior to today, you're relying on its position in the number of times played list as a measure of its status. Let's try and add some context. Ultimate Classic Rock ranked every one of Bon Jovi's 344 tracks. In fifth place out of 344; Dry County, beaten only by Livin' on a Prayer, Edge of a Broken Heart, Keep the Faith and Wanted Dead or Alive. Captain Crash, which I would be happy to never hear again, was ranked 50. Cleveland.com rate Dry County 12th in their Top 25, describing it as Bon Jovi's "Freebird", beating Keep the Faith at 16 and a few others that were on the set list. Catain Crash is again absent. But that's only a critic or critics' opinion, right?
Rolling Stone magazine, on release of This House is Not for Sale, invited their readers to vote for their favourite Bon Jovi songs; Livin' on a Prayer won, with Wanted Dead or Alive second and Runaway third. In 4th place was... Dry County, 4 places better than Keep The Faith. The article only lists the top 10, so I can't tell you where Captain Crash finished. Noticed a trend yet?
You've admitted not being a big fan of Bon Jovi and have never heard of the track before today yet see fit to point out why you believe I have no right to be irritated by Dry County not being on the set list.
Dry County is a critically acclaimed song, a very much loved song amongst the fans and as such it is deeply irritating when it is left off the set list in favour of what I and others regard as commercial garbage.
The only person who's missed the point in respect of this random irritation is you.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Yeah but they usually don't play it. More often than not, they don't play it. Being irritated by them once again not playing it, would be like if I heard Jon Bon Jovi had visited a pub near me a month ago, then I went and checked out said pub tomorrow and he wasn't there, and I got really angry about it. Because usually, more often than not, Jon Bon Jovi isn't in that pub.
£2.4m of public money being spent on a cottage for royalty 'to bring it up to a basic standard'. Someone was clearly taken to the cleaners if £2.4m only gives you something basic. They should have knocked it down and started again, it would have been cheaper.
Crazyface
Tour Winner
Haing to scroll though a very unnecessary Bon Jovi argument.
Crazyface
Tour Winner
That's what they do in the local village that's now full of footballers, and ex footballers. Little country cottages are now breeze block monster mansions.
while visiting my daughter and son in law over the weekend he mentioned that he was offered 2 gold tickets for the Metallica concert at Twickenham last week but didn't mention it as he didn't think I'd want to go with my daughter.
Needless he was told that he was a complete FXXXXXX Txxx and wXXXXX
Needless he was told that he was a complete FXXXXXX Txxx and wXXXXX
there was a bit on the BBC about other expenditure also..... like £4 millions in travel expenses all paid for by the Tax payer, mostly by Charlie boy one of the wealthiest people in the UK.
Time to put a stop to this, they get there money from us we shouldn't also be paying for everything else as well.
Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
Haing to scroll though a very unnecessary Bon Jovi argument.
You didn’t have to, you chose to. And given some of your posts that has to win this year’s “Dear Pot, love Kettle “ irony award.
Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
not only that.... Shanker and Orikoru
Oh, he’s actually got the shanks? I was following a different train of thought...
