GreiginFife
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Some bleed valves have a slot for a screwdriver and works fine.
If not, needle nose pliers work just as well in my experience.
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Some bleed valves have a slot for a screwdriver and works fine.
If not, needle nose pliers work just as well in my experience.
4LEX
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The Met Police.
They refused permission and tried to stop a totally peaceful vigil for a murdered woman last night. Just unbelievable. They caused the bad feeling, tried to intimidate and got heavy handed with people paying their respects. I've spent an hour putting into writing how disgusted I am at their conduct today in an official complaint. Bullying women at a vigil, unforgivable.
They refused permission and tried to stop a totally peaceful vigil for a murdered woman last night. Just unbelievable. They caused the bad feeling, tried to intimidate and got heavy handed with people paying their respects. I've spent an hour putting into writing how disgusted I am at their conduct today in an official complaint. Bullying women at a vigil, unforgivable.
DanFST
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The Met Police.
They refused permission and tried to stop a totally peaceful vigil for a murdered woman last night. Just unbelievable. They caused the bad feeling, tried to intimidate and got heavy handed with people paying their respects. I've spent an hour putting into writing how disgusted I am at their conduct today in an official complaint. Bullying women at a vigil, unforgivable.
How is shouting **** the police part of a vigil?
Beezerk
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The Met Police.
They refused permission and tried to stop a totally peaceful vigil for a murdered woman last night. Just unbelievable. They caused the bad feeling, tried to intimidate and got heavy handed with people paying their respects. I've spent an hour putting into writing how disgusted I am at their conduct today in an official complaint. Bullying women at a vigil, unforgivable.
Part vigil, part anti police protest, part I just want to be there as it's trending on Twitter.
It's a shame what should have been something to remember this poor lass by has turned into a "who shouts loudest" competition. I see they are protesting outside police hq in London now, for what? How does that remember the woman who got murdered?
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The Met Police.
They refused permission and tried to stop a totally peaceful vigil for a murdered woman last night. Just unbelievable. They caused the bad feeling, tried to intimidate and got heavy handed with people paying their respects. I've spent an hour putting into writing how disgusted I am at their conduct today in an official complaint. Bullying women at a vigil, unforgivable.
Have you checked out the videos to get the full story as opposed to the one being portrayed by the media
A lot of context is being ignored
4LEX
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Because the Police were in the wrong to stop it. They incited it themselves. A quite vigil with a few thousand peaceful mourners was appropriate. By cancelling it they caused anger and invited the trouble on.
4LEX
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You know my views on things from previous stuff but I genuinely think the Police were entirely to blame. Judged the mood wrong and paid the price as they'll be a huge protest next weekend as a result of their behaviour last night.
Beezerk
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Given the current lockdown situation the vigil shouldn't have been arranged in the first place. Boils my pi$$ that some people think social distancing doesn't apply to them and they are above the law, all in the name of looking like a saint on Facebook.
PNWokingham
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there was clear bad behaviour and incitement from the crowd. Maybe the police could have handled it better but this was an illegal gathering with malicious intent from some of the crowd. Very difficult for the police to not intervene
4LEX
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I understand that but common sense has to indicate the public anger at the murder and the need for a vigil. By cancelling it, that incited bad feeling and attracted the troublemakers who tried to hijack it. The Police got it totally wrong from the start. If they allowed it to go ahead, it would've been entirely peaceful and less Covid risk than angry mobs squaring up.
I won't defend those shouting abuse at the Police but I can understand their anger.
Yes but those attending the vigil were 100% safe as Covid doesn’t attend vigils.... everyone knows that.
Rlburnside
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The Met Police.
They refused permission and tried to stop a totally peaceful vigil for a murdered woman last night. Just unbelievable. They caused the bad feeling, tried to intimidate and got heavy handed with people paying their respects. I've spent an hour putting into writing how disgusted I am at their conduct today in an official complaint. Bullying women at a vigil, unforgivable.
Yes let’s all blame the police , perhaps you should look at all those attending a illegal gathering and putting themselves and the police at risk, they are the ones that are to blame
4LEX
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Not at all. The Police have now created bad feeling out of nothing and they'll be far more Covid breaches at a bigger protest next weekend. Common sense went out the window.
PNWokingham
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I doubt it would have been peaceful if it was legal (although how can a gathering be legal under covid regs) as the same cancel-culture anarchists and trouble makers would still have gone. It was illegal from the start and the police have to enforce the law. The police reacted to events - rightly or wrongly, too strongly or not strongly enough - they were not there to post rants and back whatever message they were trying to get across (and i suspect there were quite a few) on their social media accounts. They are in a no-win situation.
PNWokingham
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i think you will have to agree doing their job is not "out of nothing".
Rlburnside
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Think we would all agree the police have handled it badly, in normal circumstances they have every right to go out and show their respects, I agree common sense went out of the window the people that gathered should have stayed at home and they were to blame.
clubchamp98
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I feel sorry for the poor girls family having to watch this going on.
4LEX
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I totally agree certain elements hijacking it (and I've got no time for cancel culture etc) but the Police cancelling it and not using common sense literally gave those elements freedom to cause trouble.
In the last week we've seen thousands of football fans allowed to celebrate a trophy plastered all over the news and social media, with Police turning a blind eye. Yet the murder of a woman wasn't allowed to go by without a small vigil with crowds who would definitely have maintained social distancing. That just seems wrong. Obviously a different part of the UK but the message of double standards and supressing will be clear for all to see.
Beezerk
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Well it just takes your gaze away from the real tragedy of what the vigil was supposed to be about. Like I said some pages back, they should have held it in a few weeks time when we are all allowed outside, no one would have given it a second look then and it would have been a much better tribute, kept it fresh in the minds but in a more powerful way.
fundy
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Lettings agent (and their laughable inventory)
Estate agents (multiple times already, this is going to be ongoing lol, mkts clearly gone crazy again)
Sainsbury
The covid denying BT engineer
Not having the beach 5 mins walk from my front door
Estate agents (multiple times already, this is going to be ongoing lol, mkts clearly gone crazy again)
Sainsbury
The covid denying BT engineer
Not having the beach 5 mins walk from my front door
