Rahm

[Neilds]

It is absolutely not what scientists are saying. The vaccine can most certainly stop you getting Covid, and does so for up to 90-odd percent of recipients, and Covid will be milder in the other few percent. That is the whole flipping point.

It cannot stop a coronavirus settling on you if someone sneezes nearby, it does not create a virus-resistant force field, but that coronavirus will be very much less capable of replicating and spreading to others.

Initial medical advice over-emphasised the fact that you could still get Covid (although a lot less likely, and it will be milder) in order to maintain social distancing and social order.

The vaccine reduces the likelihood of getting CV and reduces the chance of you getting seriously ill.

 

[Ethan]

The vaccine reduces the likelihood of getting CV and reduces the chance of you getting seriously ill.
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Like I said, initial medical advice over-emphasised in order to maintain social order. The chance of getting symptomatic or asymptomatic Covid is very significantly reduced by vaccination, as is the risk of transmission.

 

[rksquire]

all then fans packed in unmasked, I wonder how many were not vaccinated or how many had not been flow tested.

I feel for Rham and his caddie as the financial penalty is massive. They should have had an official walk at safe distance and allow him to play solo.

They wouldn’t have attempted this with woods, Rory, and big phil so I’m still not sure how this has been allowed to happen.

I'm not sure about that, they might have been more amenable to accommodating Woods on a solo round but I think Rahm is as big a draw as Rory or Phil currently and I'd like to think they'd be treated the same - certainly Rory is alot more respectful of rules and accepting of officials decisions that some others.

In any event, aren't we missing the big picture here - having got Coronavirus the man was playing like a demon! It's not exactly scientific, conclusions being based on one person and all, but it appears one of the side effects is elevation of golfing ability!

 

[Orikoru]

I'm not sure about that, they might have been more amenable to accommodating Woods on a solo round but I think Rahm is as big a draw as Rory or Phil currently and I'd like to think they'd be treated the same - certainly Rory is alot more respectful of rules and accepting of officials decisions that some others.

In any event, aren't we missing the big picture here - having got Coronavirus the man was playing like a demon! It's not exactly scientific, conclusions being based on one person and all, but it appears one of the side effects is elevation of golfing ability!

Damnit. You tell me this 3 days after I have the jab!? ?

 

[Italian outcast]

I'm not sure society (anywhere) is ready to accept people with known covid in their airways wandering around - it kind of defeats the whole purpose of the last 15 months
Don't see why golf should be anything different or special

 

[Swinglowandslow]

It is absolutely not what scientists are saying. The vaccine can most certainly stop you getting Covid, and does so for up to 90-odd percent of recipients, and Covid will be milder in the other few percent. That is the whole flipping point.

It cannot stop a coronavirus settling on you if someone sneezes nearby, it does not create a virus-resistant force field, but that coronavirus will be very much less capable of replicating and spreading to others.

Initial medical advice over-emphasised the fact that you could still get Covid (although a lot less likely, and it will be milder) in order to maintain social distancing and social order.

Is there not a touch of semantics here between what you describe, Ethan, and what JamesR was reporting.
Surely both are saying the vaccine does not create a force field, but that it settles on you, I.e you 'catch' it. But the vaccine stops it "getting to work " on your body and making you ill.
It is "on you "which is why you can pass it on, though not as easily?

 

[Ethan]

Is there not a touch of semantics here between what you describe, Ethan, and what JamesR was reporting.
Surely both are saying the vaccine does not create a force field, but that it settles on you, I.e you 'catch' it. But the vaccine stops it "getting to work " on your body and making you ill.
It is "on you "which is why you can pass it on, though not as easily?

Semantics are important, but I think JamesR and I were talking about quite different degrees of risk.

The point I was making was that the Govt overplayed the risk in order to stop people reducing SD measures after vaccination and creating dissent with those who hadn't been. However, this was not really true, although a not unreasonable strategy.

Now that we are some way further along, the consideration Govt gave to Covid passports reveals that they implicitly accept that the risk attached to vaccinated people is negligible and the reason for not going ahead is really political fallout.

 

[Jigger]

I couldn’t believe what I was seeing to be honest. They tell a guy he has COVID and put their arms around him. They also all bail onto the same cart. No isolation of any form in sight. Crazy!

 

[Deleted member 1147]

Semantics are important, but I think JamesR and I were talking about quite different degrees of risk.

The point I was making was that the Govt overplayed the risk in order to stop people reducing SD measures after vaccination and creating dissent with those who hadn't been. However, this was not really true, although a not unreasonable strategy.

Now that we are some way further along, the consideration Govt gave to Covid passports reveals that they implicitly accept that the risk attached to vaccinated people is negligible and the reason for not going ahead is really political fallout.

I was just reporting what I’d read on SM. That you aren’t actually protected from catching COVID by the jab, but will just not be ill from it.

I had understood beforehand that the jab would prevent a % from catching it at all.

 

[Hoganman1]

I haven't formed a concrete opinion on this issue. On one hand there is very little difference between testing positive and having to withdraw and having an injury that prevents one from continuing to play. The Tour didn't have a choice but to follow the protocols. Golf, like life; isn't fair. On the other hand, it's interesting that -13 by two players led to a playoff. Rahm was -18 at the end of the third round. All he had to do to win was shoot 76 or +4 in the final round. Of course one cannot project what his score would have been, but my guess is his chances of shooting 76 or better were pretty good. Anyway, I feel bad for Rahm. I was very impressed how he handled a very difficult situation.