Relief from divots

Isn't preferred lies more about cleaning mud off the ball than giving yourself a nice lie?
Asking, not telling by the way - I don't know.
And good luck finding a nice lie within 6 inches of one of my massive divots.
Not being funny but you've literally referred to it as "preferred lies" and then said it's not about having a nice lie?? 😂
 
Why ?

You don’t need pick and clean and place in the summer
Why not?

The why is because it would stop people moaning about having to play from divots, obviously. And it's not compulsory to pick, clean and place every shot just because it's available. 4 times out of 5 you probably wouldn't touch it anyway. It would just be an option.
 
There's no requirement to stop people moaning...
Let them moan 😅
 
It is frustrating to end up in a divot but it doesn’t happen that often.

I wonder how terrible fairways would look (especially in landing zones) if we had this rule as perhaps nobody would bother replacing divots.
 
Not being funny but you've literally referred to it as "preferred lies" and then said it's not about having a nice lie?? 😂
Also said I didn't know.
Pretty sure the main benefit for me is wiping mud off the ball. Anywhere within 6 inches will be just as crappy as where it landed where I play golf.
 
Why not?

The why is because it would stop people moaning about having to play from divots, obviously. And it's not compulsory to pick, clean and place every shot just because it's available. 4 times out of 5 you probably wouldn't touch it anyway. It would just be an option.

Preferred lies is about being able to clean your ball during periods of weather where most of us play courses that very soft and mud on the ball

You don’t get that during the summer growing months so there is no need to pick the ball and clean it

In the very rare occasion someone goes into a divot - that’s called rub of the green and play it as it lies
 
If you get relief from a divot, where does it end? Crack in the surface during the summer drought, big dandelion that evaded the mower?

Find it, hit it 😁
 
It is frustrating to end up in a divot but it doesn’t happen that often.

I wonder how terrible fairways would look (especially in landing zones) if we had this rule as perhaps nobody would bother replacing divots.
Or they'd stop making the divots worse by having to hit out of them? 😄

Also said I didn't know.
Pretty sure the main benefit for me is wiping mud off the ball. Anywhere within 6 inches will be just as crappy as where it landed where I play golf.
My number one use of pick and place is to perch my ball up on a little tuft of grass when I'm hitting a fairway wood I think. 😁
 
In over 20 years of golf, I probably haven't been in a divot much more than 10 times. Maybe less. And I play at least twice a week, and up to 5 times during summer.

Bigger things to worry about. Start giving relief for divots, you'll soon have golfers asking "I think I'm in a divot, can I have relief" any time their lie is less than perfect. It vexes me when golfers try and claim relief from rabbit scrapings or tyre tracks when there isn't really a claim, but they think they can improve their lie by convincing others that is the case. But, that is relatively rare. Relief from divots, and you'll possibly be having that conversation every other fairway
 
Also part of the skill of the sport - playing a good tee shot to hit the fairway and get a good lie for your second shot. ;)
The trick is never holding an expectation that your ball will end up where you’d like it or as you’d like it.

It’s a game of percentages, likelihood, luck - good and bad - things that makes it a great game.

I hit my ball straight down the middle I then only think that I’ve got a decent chance of it finishing somewhere down the middle and with a decent lie…if it doesn’t…well…nobody said that golf should be fair.
 
This is why SIM golf will take over, people are becoming less and less able to cope with the vagaries of nature and life, everything must be perfect.
This isn't nature though - it's some idiot who played the course before you who can't replace a divot! If you land on a leaf or a twig or whatever that's all fine.
 
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