Push-Fade

[HawkeyeMS]

why?

if you have to aim well left and hit the ball out to in, is that not a slice?

dress it up what ever way you want, pull/ fade, fade whatever makes you happy.

I aim at the left edge of the fairway and normally hit the right side of the fairway, if that's a slice, then I'm a slicer

 

[Foxholer]

what about a block, does that start anything but right and keeps going right?

Well, certainly a Push. If it stays on same line as it starts, then a Straight Push, but often there's also a touch of fade involved too, so the Push Fade.

 

[patricks148]

I aim at the left edge of the fairway and normally hit the right side of the fairway, if that's a slice, then I'm a slicer

would you not be better aiming down the middle and hitting the middle?

 

[JustOne]

would you not be better aiming down the middle and hitting the middle?

You can, but you introduce a double miss where you can accidentally hit a draw when you were after a fade. Good golfers hate having a double miss, they like to know what the ball is doing and control that.

Small shapes are good... if you can control them.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

would you not be better aiming down the middle and hitting the middle?

The thing with golf is we're brainwashed into thinking we should hit a draw (push draw that is ) and if we can't do that we should hit it straight. The truth is, the straight shot is the hardest shot in golf, very few if any of the best players in the world hit a straight shot and more hit a fade than a draw

 

[patricks148]

You can, but you introduce a double miss where you can accidentally hit a draw when you were after a fade. Good golfers hate having a double miss, they like to know what the ball is doing and control that.

Small shapes are good... if you can control them.

true, but you can still hit a bad shot who ever you are.

A mate i play with quite often, has a terrible slice, he would call it a fade. He is very often on one side of the fairway but evey now a nd then he hits one where he's aiming (left handed) which is way off line.

i would rather try and hit it straight, if poss

 

[HawkeyeMS]

true, but you can still hit a bad shot who ever you are.

A mate i play with quite often, has a terrible slice, he would call it a fade. He is very often on one side of the fairway but evey now a nd then he hits one where he's aiming (left handed) which is way off line.

i would rather try and hit it straight, if poss

So your mate who has a terrible slice is very often on the fairway...

 

[HNewby]

I wouldnt want one...

 

[JustOne]

one what?

 

[patricks148]

So your mate who has a terrible slice is very often on the fairway...

no, very often on one side, but rarely on it

 

[JustOne]

The thing with golf is we're brainwashed into thinking we should hit a draw

Not sure it's brainwashing, the ideal shot is a push-draw (especially with an iron)... if you can't do that OR prefer to hit a fade then it should be a PUSH-fade. Either way it's a push... (the ball is hit with a swing that comes from the inside and pushes the ball to the right).

 

[JustOne]

true, but you can still hit a bad shot who ever you are.

A mate i play with quite often, has a terrible slice, he would call it a fade. He is very often on one side of the fairway but evey now a nd then he hits one where he's aiming (left handed) which is way off line.

i would rather try and hit it straight, if poss

I had one of those days at Princes last weekend. My push-fade drives pretty much all started down left center and ended up in the right rough as I wasn't swinging particularly well in the circumstances (I was freezing in my 4 layers), they were more like loooooong slices as I wasn't trusting it to fade and swinging across it more than I should have been.... pretty much ALL were still in play though (don't recall losing a ball off the tee thru 18 holes).

 

[HawkeyeMS]

no, very often on one side, but rarely on it

Ah, I see

 

[patricks148]

Ah, I see

yes and the the worrying thing is he calls himself "down the middle Nick" and he 's off 6

oh and his names not even Nick

 

[JustOne]

yes and the the worrying thing is he calls himself "down the middle Nick" and he 's off 6

oh and his names not even Nick

I konw someone off 7 that thinks a push-draw is a pull, or even a hook.... and a push-fade is a slice.


.... he is also not called Nick

 

[patricks148]

I had one of those days at Princes last weekend. My push-fade drives pretty much all started down left center and ended up in the right rough as I wasn't swinging particularly well in the circumstances (I was freezing in my 4 layers), they were more like loooooong slices as I wasn't trusting it to fade and swinging across it more than I should have been.... pretty much ALL were still in play though (don't recall losing a ball off the tee thru 18 holes).

it can be an advantage on some courses. I played against i guy in the Moray and Nairn league in the summer who wasfrom a short parkland course. he hit the ball miles witha massive slice. we were playing at Elgin which is a tree lined course, he was so far right he missed all the trouble and was on the next fairway, very often with a shot at the green. if we had been playing at my home track i would have won no trouble and he would have lost a shed load of golf balls. as it was the odd time i missed the fairway i had no shot!!! half was the best i could expect that day

 

[CMAC]

Patrick a fade is a small left to right spinner and a slice is a big left to right spinner, RH player of course

I play with guys who think a draw is a fade and vice versa, your friend must have an exceptional short game to slice yet nearly be a cat1 player

 

[JustOne]

Patrick a fade is a small left to right spinner and a slice is a big left to right spinner, RH player of course

Good post, but interesting all the same DarthV

Here lies one of the many problems with golf... the written word. It's where individual interpretation takes the truth and applies it wrongly. You know what you meant but someone reading it might not...

The correct way to phrase it would be a fade is a shot that moves a little to the right of it's initial starting direction, a slice moves a lot to the right of it's initial starting direction.

No mention of the word LEFT, the ball doesn't travel 'left to right'.. it only goes to the right.

I reckon we could solve world peace quicker than decipher the golf swing to a level that everyone could understand

 

[patricks148]

Patrick a fade is a small left to right spinner and a slice is a big left to right spinner, RH player of course

I play with guys who think a draw is a fade and vice versa, your friend must have an exceptional short game to slice yet nearly be a cat1 player

he has, he's won a few of the big comps we have at Nairn. strangley he hits his irons dead straight!!!

Always gets up and down and is the sort of player who is at his most dangerouse when he's in the deep deep do do. I would hate to be drawn against him in matchplay. also helps that he is the luckiest player you would ever meet, oh and holds the club round the wrong way (left handed)

 

[CMAC]

Good post, but interesting all the same DarthV

Here lies one of the many problems with golf... the written word. It's where individual interpretation takes the truth and applies it wrongly. You know what you meant but someone reading it might not...

The correct way to phrase it would be a fade is a shot that moves a little to the right of it's initial starting direction, a slice moves a lot to the right of it's initial starting direction.

No mention of the word LEFT, the ball doesn't travel 'left to right'.. it only goes to the right.

I reckon we could solve world peace quicker than decipher the golf swing to a level that everyone could understand

yes good point, I know I am meaning the ball is spinning left to right with no mention of where it starts whereas someone relatively new might misinterpret.

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