Push-Fade

JustOne said:
Um... OK.

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FWIW, Tiger used to hit the ball directly into the right rough a lot as he used to play for a draw.... and blocked it quite often. He's now hitting push-fade more often (with both drives and irons) and was leading the driving stats at one time.
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You are manipulating the image to support your theory. The line drawn at his feet does not represent the camera angle, IMO he is setup more down the centre.

I give up on this thread, it's too loaded.
 
SocketRocket said:
You are manipulating the image to support your theory.
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Seriously? Manipulating?

I chose the Tiger video as the commentary was so correct, a fade hit from the INSIDE, it even came with protracer.

For someone that analyses peoples swings with a view to helping them I'm surprised you can't recognise a push-fade when you see one. If you want to walk away from a thread then do that but don't try and slam the door huffy and finger pointing on the way out.
 
SocketRocket said:
You are manipulating the image to support your theory. The line drawn at his feet does not represent the camera angle, IMO he is setup more down the centre.

I give up on this thread, it's too loaded.
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Isn't the dark green line of grass by Tiger's feet pointing pretty much down the centre of the fairway? Meaning Tiger is most definately aiming left. The camera is also pretty much directly behind Tiger's aim line, that's how it looks to me anyway.
 
I don't actually understand much of this thread at all and the subject matter is totally outside any real frame of reference relating to golf as I know it. I am honestly not familiar with the term push fade or pull fade - this is the first I have heard of them. I know what a fade is and that is a ball that goes from left to right through imparted sidespin. Anyone arguing the toss over this is just engaged in semantics. And truth be told, I am not inclined to learn what the push and pull versions are either. I would be interested to know at what point the terms were invented though? They certainly were not in the golfing lexicon when I learned to play!

My only observation would be to say that for almost everyone reading this, I would be very surprised indeed if anything at all in this thread helps you to play golf better.
 
side spin don't you mean backspin axis of rotation, no such thing as side spin on a golf ball - sorry i couldn't resist :p
 
Other than that little aberration, he is right though. As interesting as the debate is, it's all a bit pointless for 99.99999% of golfers throughout the world. The shape of the shot you hit is vastly more important than its name.
 
bluewolf said:
Other than that little aberration, he is right though. As interesting as the debate is, it's all a bit pointless for 99.99999% of golfers throughout the world. The shape of the shot you hit is vastly more important than its name.
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I'm not sure it was ever intended to help anyone.
 
bluewolf said:
Other than that little aberration, he is right though. As interesting as the debate is, it's all a bit pointless for 99.99999% of golfers throughout the world. The shape of the shot you hit is vastly more important than its name.
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While I agree, 90%+ of threads on the forum could be construed as "unhelpful", but, afterall, it is a forum for golf based discussion.





While were on the subject, which golf glove is best for a 16 'capper? :smirk:
 
Gareth said:
While were on the subject, which golf glove is best for a 16 'capper? :smirk:
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Golf gloves are the invention of the liberal media who buy Cabretta leather in huge quantities and then use the profits to fund corrupt left wing scientists investigations into climate change. Nobody needs a glove. And blades are for people who should know better.
 
Snelly said:
I don't actually understand much of this thread at all and the subject matter is totally outside any real frame of reference relating to golf as I know it. I am honestly not familiar with the term push fade or pull fade - this is the first I have heard of them. I know what a fade is and that is a ball that goes from left to right through imparted sidespin. Anyone arguing the toss over this is just engaged in semantics. And truth be told, I am not inclined to learn what the push and pull versions are either. I would be interested to know at what point the terms were invented though? They certainly were not in the golfing lexicon when I learned to play!

My only observation would be to say that for almost everyone reading this, I would be very surprised indeed if anything at all in this thread helps you to play golf better.
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It could be written in crayon and you wouldn't understand it, why? because you're not interested.

In your world you just like to jump into these threads and dismiss as much as you can, because you can't be bothered with it you need to voice your derogatory opinion which (as it happens) doesn't really help the learning experience of others. Does everyone have to think the same as you in your world?

There ARE people out there who DO want to learn and discuss stuff, if you're so against that why post? why even read it? :confused:
 
bluewolf said:
Other than that little aberration, he is right though. As interesting as the debate is, it's all a bit pointless for 99.99999% of golfers throughout the world. The shape of the shot you hit is vastly more important than its name.
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good it's a debate; and as such I completely disagree with this statement -

the majority of golfers in the world want to improve

a huge proportion of them rely on word of mouth, or increasingly youtube video solutions, to implement improvement

if they are hitting a push fade, but think it's a slice, when they implement the 'fix' for their slice the ball will start even further left, and go further left still with an increased arc!
 
JustOne said:
I've fogotten if anyone bothered answering the original question.... :confused:

You're a yes Gareth...

Should have added a poll :angry:
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I'm a no - normally play something like a push-draw (but will continue to call it a draw going forward!) when I need to hit a fade however it does tend to turn out to be a push-fade!
 
duncan mackie said:
good it's a debate; and as such I completely disagree with this statement -

the majority of golfers in the world want to improve

a huge proportion of them rely on word of mouth, or increasingly youtube video solutions, to implement improvement

if they are hitting a push fade, but think it's a slice, when they implement the 'fix' for their slice the ball will start even further left, and go further left still with an increased arc!
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And how many times will they do that before they realise that its the wrong solution? Will they continue to implement the change when all evidence points to the contrary? If we are talking about self diagnosis, as we appear to be, then most people will learn more from their mistakes than they will from the eventual success. They might even enjoy the journey. Or, they could visit a pro and learn that way.
 
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