Driver stance ….?

[Lord Tyrion]

Total opposite, somebody once explained to me that all the courses designed by Colin Montgomerie have trouble down the left to suit his fade off the tee.

He may favour that but it isn't entirely true. The opening hole on the Montgomery course at Celtic Manor bends around to the left, very definitely favouring a draw. I can't remember enough of the other holes but my vague memory is that both shapes were required. A good story, and he may favour the fade in his designs, but he does mix it up.

Having played Ilkley once, I'd very much back @garyinderry point. Anyone with a draw playing there is in big trouble . I don't think I've played a course before with a river running tightly down one side of so many holes.

 

[Springveldt]

The YouTube algorithm recommend this video to me this morning which fits in with this thread.

Notice his last point that starts at around 11 minutes, that’s what I do when trying to hit a draw.

 

[Lucifer MorningStar]

The YouTube algorithm recommend this video to me this morning which fits in with this thread.

Notice his last point that starts at around 11 minutes, that’s what I do when trying to hit a draw.

We must have a very similar Algorithm as this was in my suggested list last night, I found it a really interesting watch and when I look at my driver swings v's this video it highlights a few flaws that have crept in and led to me being hugely inconsistent with my driver swing and low point especially as my peak launch has been 10degrees. Might have to bookmark this one and put some of it into practice.

 

[Springveldt]

We must have a very similar Algorithm as this was in my suggested list last night, I found it a really interesting watch and when I look at my driver swings v's this video it highlights a few flaws that have crept in and led to me being hugely inconsistent with my driver swing and low point especially as my peak launch has been 10degrees. Might have to bookmark this one and put some of it into practice.

80% of my YouTube watching is golf so I get recommended all sorts of golf stuff.

 

[Lucifer MorningStar]

80% of my YouTube watching is golf so I get recommended all sorts of golf stuff.

I would say 100% of mine is so it’s all I get

 

[sunshine]

He may favour that but it isn't entirely true. The opening hole on the Montgomery course at Celtic Manor bends around to the left, very definitely favouring a draw. I can't remember enough of the other holes but my vague memory is that both shapes were required. A good story, and he may favour the fade in his designs, but he does mix it up.

Yeah I'm sure the story is an exaggeration.

But Celtic Manor is a bad example: the front nine used to be the starting and finishing holes of the old Wentwood course, which was the championship course before the 2010 was built. Monty would have had no input into the design of the opening hole. And the back nine used to be the 9 hole Coldra course, with a bit of renovation. I think the naming of that course was really a piece of marketing to increase the venue's connection to the Ryder Cup.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

My ball position in my stance is determined by where the bottom of the arc of my swing is.

 

[Orikoru]

My ball position for all clubs is as follows, not sure if others would be similar:
Dr: a ball or two inside lead heel.
3W, 7W: two balls forward of middle.
5H, 6i, 7i: one ball forward of middle.
8i, 9i: middle.
PW, AW, wedges: I have tried hitting these with the ball slightly back in the stance, as I think this is taught by a lot of people, but it just doesn't work for me - I seem to push it right from there, or sometimes just thin it. So now I keep it in the middle, but my lead foot is flared out so my stance is a little bit open. So it almost has the illusion of being back in my stance when it's not really. Whereas with the above clubs I do flare my lead foot out still, but I drop the trail foot back half an inch so the stance isn't as open.

Describing it in words makes it sound more complicated than it is.

 

[Lucifer MorningStar]

My ball position for all clubs is as follows, not sure if others would be similar:
Dr: a ball or two inside lead heel.
3W, 7W: two balls forward of middle.
5H, 6i, 7i: one ball forward of middle.
8i, 9i: middle.
PW, AW, wedges: I have tried hitting these with the ball slightly back in the stance, as I think this is taught by a lot of people, but it just doesn't work for me - I seem to push it right from there, or sometimes just thin it. So now I keep it in the middle, but my lead foot is flared out so my stance is a little bit open. So it almost has the illusion of being back in my stance when it's not really. Whereas with the above clubs I do flare my lead foot out still, but I drop the trail foot back half an inch so the stance isn't as open.

Describing it in words makes it sound more complicated than it is.

You are aware right you can have a flared foot and still have a square stance without moving your right foot back

I keep my ball position really simple driver it’s where the low point is under my left shoulder so usually just slightly further back than the inside of the left heel. It’s been creeping forward unintentionally that why my driving’s been crap.

Fairwoods, 4-5 iron just ahead of centre as I still like to hit down on them,
6-sw bang in the middle of my stance where the low point is just bring the right foot in slightly and hands inside the left hip so like it’s presetting impact for a downward strike and lets me control the flight then.

 

[SocketRocket]

 

[bobmac]

The more speed you have the more spin you get the higher the ball goes.
To compare the ball position of a tour pro with most amateurs is wrong in my opinion

 

[JonnyGutteridge]

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[Lucifer MorningStar]

Watched that the other day was a god watch and great advice.

 

[Backache]

Watched that the other day was a god watch and great advice.

Are you now religious about ball position?

 

[bobmac]

Just be aware that anyone can start up a You Tube channel and make all sorts of claims.
Please do your research before taking advice or handing over any money

 

[timd77]

Watched that the other day was a god watch and great advice.

Just be aware that anyone can start up a You Tube channel and make all sorts of claims.
Please do your research before taking advice or handing over any money

Just tried this down the range. Yikes. Didn’t work for me at all, blocks right. I’m guessing the face was still open as it hadn’t had time to square up. I did try nudging it up a bit more and found a couple of balls inside my left heal seemed to give a nice straight flight. Didn’t have a tracking device though so no idea if it was any better than my usual stance/position.

That said, I’m trying to groove in a new swing so it’s probably not the best time to introduce something else!

 

[Lucifer MorningStar]

Just tried this down the range. Yikes. Didn’t work for me at all, blocks right. I’m guessing the face was still open as it hadn’t had time to square up. I did try nudging it up a bit more and found a couple of balls inside my left heal seemed to give a nice straight flight. Didn’t have a tracking device though so no idea if it was any better than my usual stance/position.

That said, I’m trying to groove in a new swing so it’s probably not the best time to introduce something else!

The thing this video highlights is it’s not a one position fits all, that he has him making small adjustments each time until he gets the spot that suits him as a player not the spot all coaches generically tell everyone to have it in. I think it’s a good ceos with solid advice.

What you may have done by following his teaching is found your sweet spot and that is what he’s trying to achieve.

 

[Rlburnside]

That was an interesting watch might be worth a try next time I’m out.
But I watched a top 5 tips from Tommy Fleetwood and for driver he said you need to hit on the up.
No wonder golf’s so hard I’ve seen so many tips that seem to contradict each other

 

[bobmac]

That was an interesting watch might be worth a try next time I’m out.
But I watched a top 5 tips from Tommy Fleetwood and for driver he said you need to hit on the up.

As I said earlier..... pros don't need help hitting the ball high with their swing speed and spin rates whereas most amateurs with slower swing speeds and less spin rate, do need help. Hence ball forward increasing dynamic loft and launch angle helps. Just don't forget to use a high tee.

No wonder golf’s so hard I’ve seen so many tips that seem to contradict each other

That's why you should always do your research

 

[timd77]

The thing this video highlights is it’s not a one position fits all, that he has him making small adjustments each time until he gets the spot that suits him as a player not the spot all coaches generically tell everyone to have it in. I think it’s a good ceos with solid advice.

What you may have done by following his teaching is found your sweet spot and that is what he’s trying to achieve.

Yep, very true. It was interesting trying a few different set ups.