Plane

[Fade and Die]

Not like that fella. Where is the kite and the wind he is using to propel him?

He is using his legs and their relationship to the ground. Therefore, he is stationary, just like anyone jogging on a treadmill

No difference If it’s his legs giving him forward motion or the wind pulling him along…

How fast is this car going…

 

[Swango1980]

No difference If it’s his legs giving him forward motion or the wind pulling him along…

How fast is this car going…

Very much a difference.

But, I shall leave it there, and just accept some understand it, and others never will.

Probably why the teaser works so well. People get so focused on the treadmill and it's speed relative to plane, they completely ignore the method of how a plane is propelled forwards. It is why the same teaser doesn't use a runner or a car, as it is no longer a teaser

 

[Deleted member 35927]

No difference If it’s his legs giving him forward motion or the wind pulling him along…

How fast is this car going…

Strap a jet engine on it and you think it would stay where it is ?

 

[Voyager EMH]

"They" think that because obviously it will.

That you think otherwise as a functioning human being is mind-boggling.

Steady on old chap.
Doesn't matter what each or any of us think.
You've been doing very well presenting your side, let others present their side.
This is a debate - and a very good one - gets us all thinking - we are all allowed to have our thoughts.
I have tried very hard to not take sides. I said from the start that I did not want to kill the thread.

I really enjoy reading other's thoughts on an issue like this. The ones that are very different from mine are the most interesting.
Reading the ones that are the same as mine is as interesting as talking to myself.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Wonder if anyone has a spare 747 and the worlds biggest treadmill so that the definitive answer can be found out

 

[Deleted member 35927]

Wonder if anyone has a spare 747 and the worlds biggest treadmill so that the definitive answer can be found out

747 is the example in the op, but can apply to any aeroplane

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Wonder if anyone has a spare 747 and the worlds biggest treadmill so that the definitive answer can be found out

This sounds like something Elon would be up for

 

[Arthur Wedge]

This sounds like something Elon would be up for

That’s one big treadmill

Could try it with an F35

 

[SteveW86]

Put the hairdryer on full blast tonight, damn thing nearly flew out of my hand with the lift generated from the air getting sucked in.

 

[Deleted member 36735]

Steady on old chap.
Doesn't matter what each or any of us think.
You've been doing very well presenting your side, let others present their side.
This is a debate - and a very good one - gets us all thinking - we are all allowed to have our thoughts.
I have tried very hard to not take sides. I said from the start that I did not want to kill the thread.

I really enjoy reading other's thoughts on an issue like this. The ones that are very different from mine are the most interesting.
Reading the ones that are the same as mine is as interesting as talking to myself.

Wrong.
It's not a debate on ethics such as capital punishment where there can be equally valid opinions on both sides.
This is about very very simple facts, two different views are not necessarily equal and some of the stuff spouted has been absolutely staggering in it's stupidity.

 

[Beezerk]

Put the hairdryer on full blast tonight, damn thing nearly flew out of my hand with the lift generated from the air getting sucked in.

Strap the hair dryer to a skateboard then put the skateboard on a conveyor/roller table. It’s the perfect experiment for some daft bugger to try

 

[Deleted member 35927]

"They" think that because obviously it will.

That you think otherwise as a functioning human being is mind-boggling.

Hang on , are you suggesting a plane landing at 180 mph on a runway travelling toward it at 180mph will suddenly stop

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Put the hairdryer on full blast tonight, damn thing nearly flew out of my hand with the lift generated from the air getting sucked in.

 

[Swango1980]

Hang on , are you suggesting a plane landing at 180 mph on a runway travelling toward it at 180mph will suddenly stop

Yes, that is exactly what they are saying. That is apparently based on very simple facts.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Hang on , are you suggesting a plane landing at 180 mph on a runway travelling toward it at 180mph will suddenly stop

Wouldn’t like to be on that plane

 

[Lord Tyrion]

That’s one big treadmill

Could try it with an F35

He's got the money, he's happy to waste it on a huge scale. I reckon he'd be up for it

 

[Arthur Wedge]

He's got the money, he's happy to waste it on a huge scale. I reckon he'd be up for it

If it means he avoids being involved elsewhere then that’s good for me

 

[RichA]

Hang on , are you suggesting a plane landing at 180 mph on a runway travelling toward it at 180mph will suddenly stop

That's equally as bizarre as suggesting that a 747 doing 180mph on a conveyor belt in still air can levitate and instantaneously achieve that as an airspeed to maintain flight.

 

[Deleted member 35927]

That's equally as bizarre as suggesting that a 747 doing 180mph on a conveyor belt in still air can levitate and instantaneously achieve that as an airspeed to maintain flight.

The latter of those has not been suggested, only the first one.

 

[Swango1980]

That's equally as bizarre as suggesting that a 747 doing 180mph on a conveyor belt in still air can levitate and instantaneously achieve that as an airspeed to maintain flight

Very true. Not sure anybody has put that theory forward yet though?