New scoring - MABLEFORD

[JustOne]

It's not even a recognised scoring system yet and already it's happening....

LOLOLOL

This is the same as stableford, except you're capping scores at triple bogey rather than double.

You complain about it not being fair that you make a 6, your mate makes an 11 and you both get zero points, yet in Mableford if you get a 7 and your mate a 12 then you both get -1. By your previous logic, that's still unfair. You haven't solved the problem that led you to consider a new system in the first place.

Absolutely however as Murph points out it rewards consistency by widening the scoring window.

It doesn't have to be -1, (that makes you feel like you're going backwards) you could simply award 3pts for par, 2 for bogey and 1 for double. the important part is being able to reward the difference between making (what is to most) a reasonable golfers double bogey..... and a triple, quadruple or a cricket score.

however by using the -1 it certainly puts a different perspective on it.... whether you're REALLY going backwards or not is open to interpretation.... although 34 is generally less than 35

 

[sev112]

Given the unbelievable success of this thread, i would like it to go into the records that the guys wanted to call it "Stapleford" ??? It was only my briliiant mind that came up with "mableford", (oh and the jacuzzi )


Great idea chaps

 

[G1BB0]

Stableford is great as high cappers like me win monthly comps

so stop bitching as you good players have the medals to win while us mere mortals rack up 7's and 8's by the 5th and are out of it by the turn!

 

[USER1999]

Stableford is great as high cappers like me win monthly comps

so stop bitching as you good players have the medals to win while us mere mortals rack up 7's and 8's by the 5th and are out of it by the turn!

This is why I have always maintained that div 1 and 2 should play medal, div 3 and 4 should play stableford. Separate trophies. You should have to earn the right to shoot a 12 on a hole.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

If it winds you up that someone can take 10 shots on a few holes and still 'beat' you then the answer is pretty simple.

As soon as you get to the stage that you can no longer score on a hole, take another 4 or 5 putts and beat them at their own game.

:ears:

 

[MashieNiblick]

I think it sounds good. Can't add much to the comments above.
Rewards play that just misses out on a point due to missing a putt, as compared to hacking it around and never even getting to the green. Maintains interest in the hole a bit longer but still gives the option to pick up and save a bit of time if you are making a horlicks of a hole.

How about giving it a try at a forum meet as an AM 9 hole comp?

 

[CMAC]

why Mableford?

The idea is sound as I wince when someone only tells me their stableford score, it means nothing to me as someone brought up on stroke play only, where your score didnt count until that last putt went in.

 

[sev112]

I think it sounds good. Can't add much to the comments above.
Rewards play that just misses out on a point due to missing a putt, as compared to hacking it around and never even getting to the green. Maintains interest in the hole a bit longer but still gives the option to pick up and save a bit of time if you are making a horlicks of a hole.

How about giving it a try at a forum meet as an AM 9 hole comp?

Wouldn't work - PN-W saves his blow ups for the back 9

 

[HomerJSimpson]

After yesterday I'mputting my cards in under an assumed name. With mableford could I finish with a minus score? Interesting theory and I wondered what the heated topic was as we waited forever for our dinner to arrive

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

I think you lot need to man up and get the ball into the hole in fewer shots :sbox:

 

[Foxholer]

I scored on every hole at Camberley (afternoon - and only blob in the morning was simple double, so 0, not -1), so would probably be one to 'benefit' from the Mableford approach. However, as Handicap calculation is based on Stableford, I still have no problem with Stableford rather than Mableford.

Winners of Medal competitions are probably 'more worthy' of the win though.

I favour a mixture of the 2 types, in club comps, as it gives everyone an opportunity to win - though I've never done so (plenty of 2nds and 3rds).

The 'expectation' is that blowout holes/cricket scores are likely to be in consistent proportion every round - something that doesn't actually happen. I know someone who has a rather eclectic mix of scores in the low 20s, mid 30s and low (or even high) 40s! Much easier to do the latter off his 20-ish handicap than my 9 though! He'd make a pretty good 4BBB partner for me1


And I have seen a Medal round where a Cat 1 NR was cut by more than the (Cat 3) winner!

 

[JezzE]

Stableford is strokeplay unless you're playing Stableford matchplay...

Anyway, not sure I like the sound of Mableford, Mapleford, Medford, Stablesomes or whatever you want to call it.

Take it far enough and I believe it would eventually morph into something called medal play.

I guess if you really don't like Stablefords, don't play in them - by sticking to medals only you can then enjoy the pleasure of racking up a 10 on the 2nd hole and effectively wasting your entire Saturday or Sunday morning.

Thought processes after a 10 on the 2nd in a medal... "Actually, I'd rather be trudging round Tescos with the missus and kids than playing the next 16 holes."

Thought processes after a 10 on the 2nd in a Stableford... "Bother - not quite what I had in mind, but if I can just squeeze out a couple of three-pointers in the next few holes I'll be right back on track."

 

[JustOne]

However, as Handicap calculation is based on Stableford, I still have no problem with Stableford rather than Mableford.

I don't know if everyone records their score (for h/cap) when they don't finish a hole? Don't they just put a big X on their blob holes? It would be more accurate if you worked out h/caps on a Mableford system as it would accurately show those guys who are SOLID players... (known as bandits) but blob a hole or three in the current system, and those who aren't in fact bandits... quite the opposite in fact... a few -1's on the card would show their inconsistency.

 

[RGDave]

Also when scores are posted on threads its frequently in order of 1)points, then 2)nett, then 3)how much under/over handicap, then eventually 4)gross or actual score (if we're lucky)

Why is there such a movement to mask how many strokes (inc penalty strokes) that it took folks to go round in!

No movement here in my world. First thing I put down on any post is the gross score.

First thing I look at on masterscoreboard.com is my gross and where I came in the field at my club.

I'm sure that on a weekly basis, there are players who score more points than me but their real gross/nett score is an embarrassment.

 

[RGDave]

quite the opposite in fact... a few -1's on the card would show their inconsistency.

Interesting. I often find it hard to gauge how players are doing (when I'm up against them in matchplay) looking at their scores. Last year, I was up vs. a player who a) had never, ever, played in a medal b) never completed a full stableford card because all 14 cards (?) were blobbed all over the place, and c) he'd never made a birdie or parred the 4th, 5th, 6th, 11th, 14th.

Curiously, he made a birdie, he also parred the 4th,11th and 14th.

I smelled a massive long-tailed rodent - wearing a day-glow sombrero, playing a Guitar, and sippin' Tequila.

We lost....

 

[richart]

After yesterday I'mputting my cards in under an assumed name. With mableford could I finish with a minus score? Interesting theory and I wondered what the heated topic was as we waited forever for our dinner to arrive

I must have fallen asleep, as I was sitting next to James, and don't remember the discussion.

Mind you I do the same when HID is nagging me.

 

[sev112]

I must have fallen asleep, as I was sitting next to James, and don't remember the discussion.

No, he was outside at the time - we were filling his bowl up with 4 servings of custard if i remember rightly, and then he wanted more !

 

[Leftie]

"After yesterday I'mputting my cards in under an assumed name. "

I'm not, repeat not, going there ........... Nursey. My medication please



"I wondered what the heated topic was as we waited forever for our dinner to arrive"

The heated topic was "Where on earth has Homer got to? I'm starving" Some wag, who shall remain nameless, thought you may have gone to the practice ground .........................

 

[Leftie]

I do quite like this Mableford idea. It does have some plus points (see what I did there)

After yet another so-so round, Smiffy comes on all kind of proud and tells us in some depth about today's round.....

"Had a good one today. 32 points including 3 blobs and 4 Mables"

Has a certain ring to it

 

[CMAC]

Mableford?