New Head Greenkeeper

[Parsaregood]

Cods wallop your talking nonsense and have no idea what your on about. Was it one of your mates who you thought should have got the job as your coming across a little bit bitter and do you mind me asking what qualifications you have in relation to greenkeeping

Really and your qualified to say I'm talking nonsense when you know nothing about the course situation or anything. I know east renlike the back of my hand, know the course better than 90% of their membership, know a lot of the people who have worked there for years. Have played the course with many of them, so before you say I'm talking nonsense know your facts pal

 

[Parsaregood]

Also having a family with no less than 6 greenkeepers, one a retired head, have worked on golf courses and play off +1, I'd say I have a pretty good idea.

 

[User 99]

Really and your qualified to say I'm talking nonsense when you know nothing about the course situation or anything. I know east renlike the back of my hand, know the course better than 90% of their membership, know a lot of the people who have worked there for years. Have played the course with many of them, so before you say I'm talking nonsense know your facts pal

You haven't answered the question he asked though, what are your greenkeeping qualifications ?

 

[Parsaregood]

What questions did he ask ?

 

[User 99]

Also having a family with no less than 6 greenkeepers, one a retired head, have worked on golf courses and play off +1, I'd say I have a pretty good idea.

You're golfing ability has no relation to the job of greenkeeping.

 

[Parsaregood]

I'm not a greenkeepers though do work in a very similar industry

 

[User 99]

what qualifications you have in relation to greenkeeping

 

[Parsaregood]

I didn't say it did, but I do know how a course should be set up. I know how well one in particular knows the job and also how good a golfer he was

 

[User 99]

I know east renlike the back of my hand, know the course better than 90% of their membership, know a lot of the people who have worked there for years. Have played the course with many of them

I'd say the very same about my course but no nothing about greenkeeping

 

[Parsaregood]

That would be question then, well I don't have any qualifications in greenkeeping though do have a qualification in turf management and also soil science

 

[HankMarvin]

Also having a family with no less than 6 greenkeepers, one a retired head, have worked on golf courses and play off +1, I'd say I have a pretty good idea.

You reake of bitterness and maybe one of your Kin in your eyes should have got the job ?

Get over it and give the new a guy a chance to improve the course and remember he wasn’t the Head Greenkeeper at Trump for nothing so don’t knock the guy as you don’t know him........ but you can bet if he gets the committees full backing and a good budget he will make a big difference to the course. It’s a great layout with a good selection of holes and a few poor holes and does suffer if it doesn’t get the weather.

 

[Parsaregood]

It is

You reake of bitterness and maybe one of your Kin in your eyes should have got the job ?

Get over it and give the new a guy a chance to improve the course and remember he wasn’t the Head Greenkeeper at Trump for nothing so don’t knock the guy as you don’t know him........ but you can bet if he gets the committees full backing and a good budget he will make a big difference to the course. It’s a great layout with a good selection of holes and a few poor holes and does suffer if it doesn’t get the weather.

It is a great layout with good golf holes and good potential, the decision to line fairways with hundreds of conifers has made the course suffer badly and they can only maintain them now and don't have the money to remove the vast majority which is needed, they got the ones up the 18th removed for a tuppence because they agreed to let the pipeline go through some of their land. I wish the new guy well he's just not the guy in my opinion who deserved the job

 

[HankMarvin]

It is

It is a great layout with good golf holes and good potential, the decision to line fairways with hundreds of conifers has made the course suffer badly and they can only maintain them now and don't have the money to remove the vast majority which is needed, they got the ones up the 18th removed for a tuppence because they agreed to let the pipeline go through some of their land. I wish the new guy well he's just not the guy in my opinion who deserved the job

I think it’s a bit early to judge but he wouldn’t come cheap so let’s just hope the committee have got it right.

I enjoy ERGC but do think the greens can be a bit inconsistent and the work on the 18th clearing the trees has made a difference and they have been working on ways to increase the membership and generate more cash flow into the club.

 

[Robster59]

I think I know who you are referring to and if it it is I believe he is still staying on and I am delighted about that.
I'm extremely familiar with the situation at East Ren but I don't believe this is the right place to discuss it.
The job was advertised, lots of people applied, a number where interviewed and a decision was made based on the correct process.
And it was actually a Board of Management decision.
I wish all the best to the new Head Greenkeeper and I know the members feel the same.

The decision to line the fairways with conifers was not a situation exclusive to East Ren, most other clubs in the area did the same, but they are working to address it.

 

[Parsaregood]

I think I know who you are referring to and if it it is I believe he is still staying on and I am delighted about that.
I'm extremely familiar with the situation at East Ren but I don't believe this is the right place to discuss it.
The job was advertised, lots of people applied, a number where interviewed and a decision was made based on the correct process.
I wish all the best to the new Head Greenkeeper and I know the members feel the same.

The decision to line the fairways with conifers was not a situation exclusive to our club but they are working to address it.

I'm refrerring to no-one in particular, there are a couple of experienced members of the team. I hope he does a good job as the decision is made and that's that, it's a great course and probably the best layout in the local area, it just isn't as well kept as some other local clubs but it is a very good course and one I enjoy playing when I do play it

 

[Jacko_G]

Experience working at a links course which is completely different from a moorland course with a whole new set of challenges. It's a bit like saying you would rather employ a vehicle technician who has worked for Merc rather than someone who has worked for independent garages and has experience working on a wider range of vehicles most of which are older and most of the time will be using their head a lot more to fix or find the cause rather than plugging it in and fitting new parts. It's a different kettle of fish

If you look back the new "headie" has worked elsewhere, Cowal was mentioned, quite clearly he has experience of moorland courses in his locker. I'd also Imagine that his drainage skills will be top notch and his budget management will also be excellent having worked at Cowal.

Furthering his education, experiencing new challenges is a good thing. Who is to say he'll not come in and "lean on" the number two for a while till he assesses the situation, make the number two feel valued and respected. I don't see your need for negativity towards the situation.

 

[turkish]

Can’t wait to see what the new course manager brings... wee bit of mudslinging on here but the correct decision after a proper and diligent recruitment process.... I actually think the greenstaff will develop their own skills further due to appointment. The club don’t have the budget of trump but with long term plans in place I think not only will it maintain its No1 rank in the area but will aesthetically look better. He was at gourock before also so not exactly only a links specialist. Ps a final thought getting through the recruitment process at trump wouldn’t have been easy, nor to hold the position for 6 years before resigning to join us... must be alright

 

[Parsaregood]

Time will tell, another relatively local club appointed a greenkeeper from loch lomand (the actual course) to say the members have been unhappy with the greens this year is an understatement. You forget the likes of trump etc have vastly superior machinery, a lot more man power and the budget for maintenance isn't really questioned, very different from courses that have to work within a budget. Also going back it's my opinion that to overlook someone so experienced without even giving a trial period is a bit of a slap on the face and if it was me I wouldn't be content staying put and would definitely move on to somewhere where my experience would be rewarded.

 

[Jacko_G]

Time will tell, another relatively local club appointed a greenkeeper from loch lomand (the actual course) to say the members have been unhappy with the greens this year is an understatement. You forget the likes of trump etc have vastly superior machinery, a lot more man power and the budget for maintenance isn't really questioned, very different from courses that have to work within a budget. Also going back it's my opinion that to overlook someone so experienced without even giving a trial period is a bit of a slap on the face and if it was me I wouldn't be content staying put and would definitely move on to somewhere where my experience would be rewarded.

Tell your mate/brother/cousin/partner whoever that they are welcome to use that experience elsewhere. Nobody is holding a gun to their head saying "you must stay at East Renfrewshire".

Maybe if that person is so experienced then their ambition is questionable sitting comfortably in a number 2 role. Don't you think that could have gone against them in the decision process. Why has this wonderfully experienced green keeper with all that "experience" not pushed themselves into a number 1 role at another club? Free trade, they can move on if unhappy. Although it's only you that seems to be peddling how "shocking" it is.

You have already claimed not to be a member of ER so why get so upset and animated. No skin off of your nose!

I'm also not a member at East Renfrewshire but I'm delighted for them.

 

[Parsaregood]

Tell your mate/brother/cousin/partner whoever that they are welcome to use that experience elsewhere. Nobody is holding a gun to their head saying "you must stay at East Renfrewshire".

Maybe if that person is so experienced then their ambition is questionable sitting comfortably in a number 2 role. Don't you think that could have gone against them in the decision process. Why has this wonderfully experienced green keeper with all that "experience" not pushed themselves into a number 1 role at another club? Free trade, they can move on if unhappy. Although it's only you that seems to be peddling how "shocking" it is.

You have already claimed not to be a member of ER so why get so upset and animated. No skin off of your nose!

I'm also not a member at East Renfrewshire but I'm delighted for them.

I'm not a member of east ren, i probably would be if the club showed a bit of a ambition regarding practice facilities and sorted out the outdated clubhouse but hey ho there are other clubs in the area that fit my bill. Perhaps it did go against them, though i will say there are only 2 members on that gk team with meaningful experience and if one or both were lost itd be a huge blow