Have you watched the video link I've put up and you still honestly think that?
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Have you watched the video link I've put up and you still honestly think that?
Golfmmad
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Yes I did watch the video link you put up and posted back to you thanking you for it, but for some reason it didn't work.
Sorry Fish, I watched it several times - Nani is on one leg trying to control the ball and Arbeloa runs in to him.
Have you forgotten how clever the RM players are at faking injuries and making the opposition looking like the guilty party.
Happens all the time in Europe.
Wayman
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stupid call by ref
shouldnt of been sent off i think
shouldnt of been sent off i think
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
Like NAni too then, why did Nani go down like he'd been shot at the time of the incident, he knew he was in bother.
Golfmmad
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Obviously you use the same rose tinted glasses as the Man u loving premier league refs that you see at Old Trafford week in week out.......
I've said in a previous post on this that if Referee's were to give favouritism to Man utd in any way, they would be taken to task for it. As I said before, does anybody really believe this love for Man utd happens?
Its got nothing to do with faking anything, Nani's boot goes into the ribs of the Real player AFTER he has chested the ball forward, the video is as clear as gin.
His (Nani's) foot is fully extended when the player chests the ball and as such there is no body to body contact, that is why in the pictures Nani's foot is still in contact with the Real players ribs and the ball is some 6ft forward, the way the Real player is facing!
Typical bias untied fan, you do your team and yourself no favours with such biased opinions on show. South coast armchair supporter I bet.
I suppose Ferdinand was trying to swat some flies in front of the refs face at the end and not sarcastically clapping his correct decision?
Golfmmad
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The red card incident itself has nothing to do with my being a Man Utd supporter. How many more times do I have to say it, it was not a red card no matter what team it was given against.
And what's so wrong with a South Coast armchair supporter?
I think it's time to call a halt Gentlemen, thanks for the debate, I've enjoyed it. We'll just have to agree to differ on this.
Plus I have to be up at 5am, so it's goodnight from me!
Birchy
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What happens if say for instance if Nani had hit him in the face with his boot instead? By accident of course but would it still not be a red card? How hard do you have to hit somebody accidentally before it goes from foul to yellow to red?
Blue in Munich
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Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
Happens quite a lot in the Premier league too. Nani. Ashley Young. Hernandez. Patrice Evra. Fabio. Have I missed any?
All this has deflected away from old Red Noses "Rooney gamble" going horribly wrong also.
I just read a fan called 999 and reported a crime at OT after the match :rofl: the 18 year old is being prosecuted, you couldn't make it up :rofl:
I just read a fan called 999 and reported a crime at OT after the match :rofl: the 18 year old is being prosecuted, you couldn't make it up :rofl:
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MetalMickie
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Purely your view & version of the facts. Every angle I have seen shows Nani's foot raised well before Arbeloa's arrival.
Liverbirdie
Ryder Cup Winner
You make that first statement, and wonder why Man U are hated so much? Ferguson has won more leagues over 20 odd years, so I'll give him that.
Genuine question though - do you think he has been negligent in Europe,though? 19 chances to win the Chamions league, only successful twice, one through JT falling over, and the other had a great 3 minutes in the final against bayern.
It is only Man U fans who don't think they are favoured by refs. Look at Mike Riley's stats for giving Man U penalties - oh yes, he's the one in charge of the refs.
I tried not to get involved in this, over recent threads, as I generally call it as it is, but some of your comments just led me in.
No doubt, I will not see this through United glasses, but come on. For the record, although initially seeing it as "harsh" being a red.
The only reason for this is due to Nani not seeing Arbeloa, but he should have been watching properly if raising his feet that high.
Birchy
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I was wondering how long you could hold back from this :rofl:
Liverbirdie
Ryder Cup Winner
It's just when your met with so much biased guff, you have to challenge it.
I mean - why is there so much jealousy - we're British for god's sake - we hate winners. When LFC were top we were hated, Chelsea the same. Man U's arrogance gets them even further up the list, generally amongst neutrals.
Refs would be reprimanded if Man U had more decisions - yeah,right - Mork calling orson!
Blue in Munich
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Two sendings off for Chelsea players against them this season; Ivanovic for allegedly tripping Young, the replays showing that there may well not have been contact, Torres for a second yellow for simulation when avoiding a 2-footed Jonny Evans lunge (a red card offence in itself), the replays showing that there was contact. No bias there then.
My only sympathy for Ferguson in this, and my main current gripe with football, is with the complete inconsistency with which the rules are applied, as another week that may well not have been given. That doesn't make it right, and I think the referee last night did get it right. And the bottom line is that if Arbeloa had done it to Nani and been sent off, Ferguson couldn't have got in front of the cameras to tell us all it was the right decision quick enough.
richart
Major Champion
Interesting to hear Dermot Gallaghers view on the incident. Think he knows a bit about the game.
'The decision was harsh to say the least, but in fairness the Real player did Nani no favours whatsoever. At worst Nani catches the underside of his arm, certainly not the ribs as the guy has gone down and shown. I can't reiterate enough that Nani is watching the ball over his shoulder and there was no malice in him. At worst it is a yellow for dangerous play, but if I was referring the game I can not see by what stretch of the imagination I would have sent him off.'
I personally am not biased towards Man Utd, but that was not a sending off offence. As I said before every bicycle kick in the box could become a sending off offence. How many volleys do you see in a game at above waist height ? Are people saying you can only raise your foot to kick the ball, if you are 100% sure you are not going to catch an opponent. These incidents happen regularily in games, and players are not sent off. Nani watched the ball as it travelled 30 yards, he tried to control it over his shoulder, not smash it away, his foot caught a player that moved towards the ball behind his eye line. Two players trying to control the same ball. The clips that are being shown do not show the whole incident just the moment of impact.
I watched the incident live, have watched it replayed in slow motion many times and in my opinion it is not a sending off offence.
'The decision was harsh to say the least, but in fairness the Real player did Nani no favours whatsoever. At worst Nani catches the underside of his arm, certainly not the ribs as the guy has gone down and shown. I can't reiterate enough that Nani is watching the ball over his shoulder and there was no malice in him. At worst it is a yellow for dangerous play, but if I was referring the game I can not see by what stretch of the imagination I would have sent him off.'
I personally am not biased towards Man Utd, but that was not a sending off offence. As I said before every bicycle kick in the box could become a sending off offence. How many volleys do you see in a game at above waist height ? Are people saying you can only raise your foot to kick the ball, if you are 100% sure you are not going to catch an opponent. These incidents happen regularily in games, and players are not sent off. Nani watched the ball as it travelled 30 yards, he tried to control it over his shoulder, not smash it away, his foot caught a player that moved towards the ball behind his eye line. Two players trying to control the same ball. The clips that are being shown do not show the whole incident just the moment of impact.
I watched the incident live, have watched it replayed in slow motion many times and in my opinion it is not a sending off offence.
Birchy
Money List Winner
Nobody volleys a ball studs first though do they? What if his boot had caught his face? Still no red or is that now dangerous enough for a red?
Piece
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I think it boils down to this:
- On the continent it is a sending off as the foot is high.
- In the UK it isn't a sending off as we tolerate a higher foot.
- On the continent it is a sending off as the foot is high.
- In the UK it isn't a sending off as we tolerate a higher foot.
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