Nani red card!

[Liverbirdie]

A foot above his head?

Lol.

There's no hope for some.

Maybe it's my cheap laptop screen, but it is clearly a foot above his head.

Maybe you're watching it on a 1D narrow minded Ferguson telly, filtered through the alien thought beams of siralex, shown on a loop on MUTV.

I can't keep up with that.

 

[Blue in Munich]

Do you really believe that nonsense in your first paragraph? There's a reason that it's fans of other clubs that think we get more decisions...

As for Rafael, good one. No intent, no handball.

Rafael first; there are 7 items that Uefa list that referees should consider when adjudging whether or not a handball is deliberate or not, listed here;

http://www.referee.ffu.org.ua/img/teams/c_5.pdf

Are his arms in a natural position? No, the one in question is clearly above his head and NOT protecting his face. Is he trying to make himself bigger? Probably. Does he try to avoid the ball striking him? Doesn't seem to. Could he avoid the ball striking him? Probably. Deliberate handball, a penalty and a sending off is therefore not an unreasonable conclusion under Uefa's refereeing guidance.

Do I believe that "nonsense" in my first paragraph? Absolutely! When I discuss football with other people, regardless of who they support the team that everyone agrees gets the rub of the green far more often than anybody else is Utd. They also agree that Ferguson gets away with murder. Try the comments under this link if you don't believe me;

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/premier-league-fa-asks-ferguson-explain-comments-182412406.html

Allardyce; comments made after game at Old Trafford (and curiously related to a Rafael handball that wasn't given......) on Wednesday 16th, reported as charged by the Daily Mail on Friday 18th. Ferguson makes similar comments on January 20th, invited to explain comments on the 21st, charged on the 29th (Metro). So that's clearly equal treatment by the FA, obviously, and I'm talking rot.

As you say, there's a reason why other fans think you get more decisions. It's because you do.

 

[pbrown7582]

Let's hope Howard plays a blinder today 2 blue sendings off and at least one red pen! :rofl:

 

[smange]

Rafael first; there are 7 items that Uefa list that referees should consider when adjudging whether or not a handball is deliberate or not, listed here;

http://www.referee.ffu.org.ua/img/teams/c_5.pdf

Are his arms in a natural position? No, the one in question is clearly above his head and NOT protecting his face. Is he trying to make himself bigger? Probably. Does he try to avoid the ball striking him? Doesn't seem to. Could he avoid the ball striking him? Probably. Deliberate handball, a penalty and a sending off is therefore not an unreasonable conclusion under Uefa's refereeing guidance.

Do I believe that "nonsense" in my first paragraph? Absolutely! When I discuss football with other people, regardless of who they support the team that everyone agrees gets the rub of the green far more often than anybody else is Utd. They also agree that Ferguson gets away with murder. Try the comments under this link if you don't believe me;

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/premier-league-fa-asks-ferguson-explain-comments-182412406.html

Allardyce; comments made after game at Old Trafford (and curiously related to a Rafael handball that wasn't given......) on Wednesday 16th, reported as charged by the Daily Mail on Friday 18th. Ferguson makes similar comments on January 20th, invited to explain comments on the 21st, charged on the 29th (Metro). So that's clearly equal treatment by the FA, obviously, and I'm talking rot.

As you say, there's a reason why other fans think you get more decisions. It's because you do.

Your starting to sound like Rafa.......FACT

 

[Imurg]

Sweet Jesus - anyone would think Football's important........

It's like the Anchoring debate - you'll have those for and against and no minds will be changed.
Do Utd get more decisions than others?

As it's all down to opinion you'll never get an answer......

 

[Blue in Munich]

Your starting to sound like Rafa.......FACT

Now THAT is a concern..... FACT!!

 

[deanobillquay]

There's no hope for some.

Maybe it's my cheap laptop screen, but it is clearly a foot above his head.

Maybe you're watching it on a 1D narrow minded Ferguson telly, filtered through the alien thought beams of siralex, shown on a loop on MUTV.

I can't keep up with that.

Absolute class fella

 

[MadAdey]

It was a joke of a refereeing display over the 2 legs. This is how I see the constant cock ups that the referee made:

First leg:

Verane drags down Evra and did not get the red card he deserved.

Second leg:

Raphael should have been sent off, Madrid should of had a penalty.
Nani gets sent off, harsh but the ref did have justification by the letter of the law.
United should have had a penalty.

So over the 2 legs IMO the ref got 5 big decisions wrong. 2 of them went in United's favour 3 did not.