jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
The trouble is that slow players are forcing those behind them to play at their pace.
MLR K1...pace of play
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The trouble is that slow players are forcing those behind them to play at their pace.
bobmac
Major Champion
Exactly which is why the slower players should be ''encouraged'' to tee off last so there is no one behind them
What if the slow players won't accept the 3.00pm tee slot? If you aren't forcing them to play quicker then you are still forcing them to play when maybe they don't want to. At some point, the issue still has to be faced.
I get your point Bob but it needs those players to accept they are a problem.
I get your point Bob but it needs those players to accept they are a problem.
bobmac
Major Champion
It wouldn't happen over night but I would say given the choice of teeing off at 8am and being pushed all the way round or teeing off at 3pm and having a relaxing round, they would probably opt for the 3pm tee time. All slow coaches together.
Of the slow players I've played with, they are oblivious to groups being up behind them. They have a relaxing round whatever, it's the others in their group, those behind, who have high stress levels.
bobmac
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But if they go out last they will still have a relaxing round and nobody else is affected
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Well that’s normally the case - should you not expect every group to keep up with the group in front of them
Totally agree. It's what happens if they are not persuaded to go last though
bobmac
Major Champion
Then they'll have a miserable game being told to hurry up all the way roundTotally agree. It's what happens if they are not persuaded to go last though
rosecott
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And do you expect players to accept being described as "slow players"? I haven't yet met one who accepts that.
bobmac
Major Champion
Of course not.
Please see post no. 24
#25, they are oblivious in my experience
.Anyway, we've probably reached the point of going around in circles so I'll leave it now. I do get your point though.
bobmac
Major Champion
I've seen/heard complaints about slow play for decades and if anything, its getting worse not better.#25, they are oblivious in my experience
Anyway, we've probably reached the point of going around in circles so I'll leave it now. I do get your point though.
However, I never heard Gebrselassie or Paula Radcliffe complain about being held up by a stuffed crocodile
Steven Rules
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Let's not forget the volunteers on the Committee who are waiting for the stragglers to come in before they can close the competition.
bobmac
Major Champion
They can collect the cards in the morning
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What about the comps that need to be sorted on the day
Can you explain why it’s so bad to ask golfers to keep up with the group in front of them ?
For 99.9% of golfers is physically possible to do that - the others are able to with the use of the buggy
The people that can’t keep are the ones that are just slow players because of their actions and the way they go around the course , trolley management , elongated psr, not playing ready golf etc
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
I am reminded of one of the slowest players I know (sadly I often get to play with him).
He always puts his name forward for interclub matches. Last year he asked the the organisers why he was always put out last. His reputation is such that even the players from the other clubs talk about him.
We keep trying to speed him up but he keeps slipping back to his old ways . His fundamental problems being he is never ready when it his turn to play, he has the longest pre-shot routine of any player I have ever known, he will hardly ever play ready golf, he always wants to play last so he can see what everybody else does then starts his routine, he lasers every single shot (except for putts) even when his only about 20 yards from the green and even when he has one foot on the 100 yards distance marker. If I use my laser I will give him the yardage but he still takes his own out and measures for himself.
rulie
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I'm reminded of a line that a buddy of mine used when an undesireable club member rushed out to the first tee to join my buddy's group - "It's ok, we've already got a threesome" was the line used.
bobmac
Major Champion
Again, it's his choice. If he's paid his membership he should be allowed to play at his own natural pace, he shouldn't be forced to play at a speed he's not comfortable playing or to spend £15 for a buggy every week.
Obviously, if he goes out first and takes 5 hours in a comp, that will affect the whole field. If he goes out last with his fellow slow coaches, he will affect no-one.
Plus, we're only talking about a few players, maybe 2 tee times at either end. 6-8 sprinters who go out first and therefor not held up (happy) and the few slow guys out last who bimble round (happy).
For decades, mixing slow with fast players means nobody's happy and any amount of education and ready golf has had virtually no affect.
Just out of interest, to all those who say it wouldn't work, has your club tried anything similar?
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bobmac
Major Champion
"Can you explain why it’s so bad to ask golfers to keep up with the group in front of them ?
What’s wrong with forcing people to go around at an acceptable pace of play ?"
Make up your mind.
The whole point of keeping up with the group in front is so that you don't hold up players behind you.
What’s wrong with forcing people to go around at an acceptable pace of play ?"
Make up your mind.
The whole point of keeping up with the group in front is so that you don't hold up players behind you.
