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Hobbit said:
A bouncer on the door at the local night club = a soldier serving in Afghan?! A bouncer defending the door of a private business = a soldier defending a way of life/country/democracy?!

Ok, what's she put in your tea tonight?
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Perhaps you should talk to some Aldershot/Guildford doormen and ask what group puts them at risk.
 
Im only going to post one comment on this thread.
Im shocked how low some people will stoop to.
What even goes through someones head to post something that he knows would cause controversy.
Liverpool Phil I commend you for staying so cool,as I don't think I could be so calm if I had
served in the military.
There are a lot of us that support HFH on here with a meet every year,it gets bigger and better every year.
And long may it continue.
As someone has already said,its an all time low for the forum.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Can you really not see the difference ?

And how is making a big deal

Making people are showing their appreciation for people who put their lives on the line for the country

I ll say it again - putting their lives on the line for the country.

You must be on a wind up surely ?!
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Again Phil I'll say it again this is an ex servicemans obvious reaction to my post which is bound to be military biased, but its not necesarily right.
 
shivas irons said:
Again Phil I'll say it again this is an ex servicemans obvious reaction to my post which is bound to be military biased, but its not necesarily right.
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It has nothing to do with bias

Other people have said it to you also

One is a person protecting a pub and throwing out people too drunk


The other is protecting you and your country allow you to type your utter tripe

Do you honestly believe a bouncer needs a charity to look after him because of the trauma of stopping people getting into a pub

Are you drunk ? On drugs ? On a wind up or you are that narrow minded you really can't see the clear difference between a bouncer and a solider serving for his country
 
If you feel so strongly that there is a group of vulnerable/at risk people NOT getting the support they should then do something about it. Don't go bleating about how unfair it is with a "look what they get...how unfair is that...we get nothing" etc etc. Hardly a charitable reaction.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Perhaps you should talk to some Aldershot/Guildford doormen and ask what group puts them at risk.
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Good post, doormen in Colchester where theres an army garrison have told me of situations where army guys have caused GBH to somebody for the garrison MP's to pick up the offender with the cooperation of the Police and smooth over the situation where as a civvy who does the same is charged.
The military is favored in that situation and others, why?
 
Liverpoolphil said:
It has nothing to do with bias

Other people have said it to you also

One is a person protecting a pub and throwing out people too drunk


The other is protecting you and your country allow you to type your utter tripe

Do you honestly believe a bouncer needs a charity to look after him because of the trauma of stopping people getting into a pub

Are you drunk ? On drugs ? On a wind up or you are that narrow minded you really can't see the clear difference between a bouncer and a solider serving for his country
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People support it cos its very PC to do so nowdays and they want others to think they are doing the right thing.
 
shivas irons said:
Good post, doormen in Colchester where theres an army garrison have told me of situations where army guys have caused GBH to somebody for the garrison MP's to pick up the offender with the cooperation of the Police and smooth over the situation where as a civvy who does the same is charged.
The military is favored in that situation and others, why?
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Now I KNOW you're talking through your rear end. My nephew got in a fight in a bar a week back from Afghanistan and is now serving a prison sentence of 32 months. First offence, never been in trouble - too much drink and a civilian looking for a fight with a squaddy - my nephew was the one who obliged. The civvy police had nothing on him but the MP's pursued the case...
 
AmandaJR said:
If you feel so strongly that there is a group of vulnerable/at risk people NOT getting the support they should then do something about it. Don't go bleating about how unfair it is with a "look what they get...how unfair is that...we get nothing" etc etc. Hardly a charitable reaction.
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I'm making a generalisation that many people in many trades get injured but dont get help not just security workers, be nice if the public supported everybody, why just soldiers?
 
AmandaJR said:
Now I KNOW you're talking through your rear end. My nephew got in a fight in a bar a week back from Afghanistan and is now serving a prison sentence of 32 months. First offence, never been in trouble - too much drink and a civilian looking for a fight with a squaddy - my nephew was the one who obliged. The civvy police had nothing on him but the MP's pursued the case...
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Thats rare in this area I can assure you.
 
shivas irons said:
Good post, doormen in Colchester where theres an army garrison have told me of situations where army guys have caused GBH to somebody for the garrison MP's to pick up the offender with the cooperation of the Police and smooth over the situation where as a civvy who does the same is charged.
The military is favored in that situation and others, why?
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It appears your level of talking utter fecking nonsense is unlimited

You just can't stop making up rubbish
 
shivas irons said:
Nowdays there seems to be a lot of military charities around and I just wondered what peoples opinions of them are, personally I think its a persons choice to join up but in doing so they must accept the consequences and outcome associated with that desicion which may include permanent injury.My father was in the RAF for 38 years and we had a good life on it as do the military personnel on an Army base I live near, they benefit from subsidised housing no council tax and and a comfortable life being in the military, theres plenty on new cars parked up on the married quarters and its a world away from the poverty many endure on civvy street.My problem is this, these people have a good life in the military but when things go wrong they expect help when it was their choice to take an occupation with the obvious risks, there were many soldiers in the 1st and 2nd world wars who didnt live a great military life and when injured in battle just got on with it when they returned to civilian life they were soldiers.As ive said you take the risk you get on with it and should you expect the publics help?,ok somebodys got to defend the country but its part and parcel of that job that there could be dire consequences and thats the risk you take signing up, their soldiers they go into battle thats the profession and the chosen risk they have taken in life.I personally would prefer to see peoples charity donations go to the homeless,children who need it or the rspca, opinions guys?
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Contravertional to some..But i do agree with a lot of what you say.
 
shivas irons said:
People support it cos its very PC to do so nowdays and they want others to think they are doing the right thing.
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You do realise you are insulting every single person on here who supports the H4H


They do it because they are proud of our force and they do it because our government doesn't


Can I ask you now to stop this nonsense or pop along to Wattisham and go and see some people going through rehab that have lost a limb and then spout your nonsense to him
 
shivas irons said:
I'm making a generalisation that many people in many trades get injured but dont get help not just security workers, be nice if the public supported everybody, why just soldiers?
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Because the public rightly feel the military are fighting on behalf of them. Putting their lives at risk on behalf of them and getting killed and maimed on behalf of them. Regardless of the rights and wrongs of a conflict they unflichingly go into it with world renowned and envied professionalism and bravery.

It is so different to the professions you refer to but it is clear you can't see that and will continue to swim upstream against the tide!
 
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