Military Charities

[Deleted member 15344]

Theres obviously people in rehab with the same conditions you mention.

You have totally missed his point as you have done throughout the thread

Did you attempt to join up but got turned down ?

You are the most bitter blinkered clueless person I have seen - I actually feel pity for you and your views.

You clearly have no clue about reality

 

[shivas irons]

You have totally missed his point as you have done throughout the thread

Did you attempt to join up but got turned down ?

You are the most bitter blinkered clueless person I have seen - I actually feel pity for you and your views.

You clearly have no clue about reality

Last time cos I'm fed up with your daft insults, THIS IS YOUR MILITARY BIASED OPINION and not the general concensus of everybody.
It always amuses me how some people who leave the military think there still in it, why did you leave lol?

 

[c1973]

Have to say, I wasn't aware that H4H didn't recognise ex service men injured before a certain date. If true, I'm not sure how I feel about that, always thought it was like the poppy appeal and supported all regardless of when they served.

I'm not knocking the help they do give though.

 

[hovis]

Last time cos I'm fed up with your daft insults, THIS IS YOUR MILITARY BIASED OPINION and not the general concensus of everybody.
It always amuses me how some people who leave the military think there still in it, why did you leave lol?

Do you self a favour phil, give it up buddy:temper:

 

[Fish]

So when someone like Aron loses his leg whilst on tour of duty and has his disability allowance stopped as he deemed 'not disabled enough', he should just 'Man Up' and get on with it should he?


http://www.britishlegion.org.uk/can-we-help/eligibility-for-support/case-studies/aron-shelton

As for the non-factual pathetic statement of "...and I'll add the men and the woman in the 1st and 2nd world wars had no choice in the matter but got on with life afterwards, some affected yes but they lived without the need for charity." well, I wonder why the British Legion was formed in 1921? The dates a clue, you ignorant fool!

 

[Papas1982]

Last time cos I'm fed up with your daft insults, THIS IS YOUR MILITARY BIASED OPINION and not the general concensus of everybody.
It always amuses me how some people who leave the military think there still in it, why did you leave lol?

you really are thick as pig........

the he general consensus is you're talking cods wallop. Two maybe three have shown you slight support the rest 20 people are againt you. Opinion aside, learn the basics on a consensus before trying to us it to your advantage.

 

[Fish]

Have to say, I wasn't aware that H4H didn't recognise ex service men injured before a certain date. If true, I'm not sure how I feel about that, always thought it was like the poppy appeal and supported all regardless of when they served.

I'm not knocking the help they do give though.

H4H's does a great job but I am saddened that they don't advertise and openly state the fact they don't support pre 2001 (September), I am sure there are a lot of people who bequest money to them not knowing that who were vets or were family of vets pre that date, I don't think it would harm H4H's to be more open about their policy, after-all, its not a competition, the funds would still go to servicemen & women in need whether its through H4H's or the British Legion.

 

[guest100718]

Is there a sweepstake on how many pages this gets to.......

 

[rosecott]

Last time cos I'm fed up with your daft insults, THIS IS YOUR MILITARY BIASED OPINION and not the general concensus of everybody.
It always amuses me how some people who leave the military think there still in it, why did you leave lol?

Do you really and truly think that every opinion expressed which is contrary to yours is a "MILITARY BIASED OPINION"? If so, your argument is even flimsier than can be believed.

 

[shivas irons]

Have to say, I wasn't aware that H4H didn't recognise ex service men injured before a certain date. If true, I'm not sure how I feel about that, always thought it was like the poppy appeal and supported all regardless of when they served.

I'm not knocking the help they do give though.

A mate of mine was in the Paras and got seriously injured in a firefight in the first Gulf war conflict, he had no help from charities and just got on with it living with his condition which affects him to this day, is that right in you guys opinion? Should the military charities have left him? You claim they are all this and that but how many soldiers pre 2001 have just had to get on with it and have done so, his a tough guy and got through it himself and has no regrets of what happened to him, part and parcel of the job he says, oh and his wife didnt have to sing in a choir...

 

[richart]

Having visited Tedworth House in Tidworth, and seen in person what the H4H charity has done for so many brave men and women, I just hope that none of these heroes ever come across this thread. I have found certain comments, including the opening one, very hard to read, but personally I am heartened by the staunch support of so many forumers for 'military charities'.

I will certainly not be commenting further on this thread, so please do not bother replying if you have difficulty accepting my comments.

 

[shivas irons]

Do you really and truly think that every opinion expressed which is contrary to yours is a "MILITARY BIASED OPINION"? If so, your argument is even flimsier than can be believed.

No dont put words in my mouth, I'm saying Liverpoolphils opinion is this......
Can I ask what you did in the RAF Phil and why you left as the military was obviously your world.

 

[hovis]

A mate of mine was in the Paras and got seriously injured in a firefight in the first Gulf war conflict, he had no help from charities and just got on with it living with his condition which affects him to this day, is that right in you guys opinion? Should the military charities have left him? You claim they are all this and that but how many soldiers pre 2001 have just had to get on with it and have done so, his a tough guy and got through it himself and has no regrets of what happened to him, part and parcel of the job he says, oh and his wife didnt have to sing in a choir...

You should really stop now matey

 

[Fish]

A mate of mine was in the Paras and got seriously injured in a firefight in the first Gulf war conflict, he had no help from charities and just got on with it living with his condition which affects him to this day, is that right in you guys opinion? Should the military charities have left him? You claim they are all this and that but how many soldiers pre 2001 have just had to get on with it and have done so, his a tough guy and got through it himself and has no regrets of what happened to him, part and parcel of the job he says, oh and his wife didnt have to sing in a choir...

I don't know, you tell us, you seem to know so many facts (loose term) and yet IMO you know nothing as the British Legion and many other charities would have looked out for the welfare of your friend, as an ex-Para (Pathfinder) for 6 years before I was attached to 42 Commando under 3 Commando Brigade for a further 7 years, no Para is ever left to his own devises when leaving the service injured, now that is a fact so were not hearing all the story from your friends side?

 

[srixon 1]

Nowdays there seems to be a lot of military charities around and I just wondered what peoples opinions of them are, personally I think its a persons choice to join up but in doing so they must accept the consequences and outcome associated with that desicion which may include permanent injury.My father was in the RAF for 38 years and we had a good life on it as do the military personnel on an Army base I live near, they benefit from subsidised housing no council tax and and a comfortable life being in the military, theres plenty on new cars parked up on the married quarters and its a world away from the poverty many endure on civvy street.My problem is this, these people have a good life in the military but when things go wrong they expect help when it was their choice to take an occupation with the obvious risks, there were many soldiers in the 1st and 2nd world wars who didnt live a great military life and when injured in battle just got on with it when they returned to civilian life they were soldiers.As ive said you take the risk you get on with it and should you expect the publics help?,ok somebodys got to defend the country but its part and parcel of that job that there could be dire consequences and thats the risk you take signing up, their soldiers they go into battle thats the profession and the chosen risk they have taken in life.I personally would prefer to see peoples charity donations go to the homeless,children who need it or the rspca, opinions guys?

If nobody volunteered to serve their country then we would still have national service. And that would include everybody except persons with a really important job. I spent years in the navy and believe me it is no picnic sailing through storms on a small ship.

 

[Fish]

No dont put words in my mouth, I'm saying Liverpoolphils opinion is this......
Can I ask what you did in the RAF Phil and why you left as the military was obviously your world.

He completed 22yrs, knob!

 

[rosecott]

I really think the mods should be considering closing this thread - more than enough has been said and nothing is going to change the OP's opinion.

 

[Papas1982]

Last time cos I'm fed up with your daft insults, THIS IS YOUR MILITARY BIASED OPINION and not the general concensus of everybody.
It always amuses me how some people who leave the military think there still in it, why did you leave lol?

Nobody putting any words in your mouth at all matey, here you clearly state it's not the consensus and it's because he'd biased. I suggest you look up consensus in a dictionary and reassess your opinion.

 

[Liverbirdie]

H4H's does a great job but I am saddened that they don't advertise and openly state the fact they don't support pre 2001 (September), I am sure there are a lot of people who bequest money to them not knowing that who were vets or were family of vets pre that date, I don't think it would harm H4H's to be more open about their policy, after-all, its not a competition, the funds would still go to servicemen & women in need whether its through H4H's or the British Legion.

Agree with that Robin, I didn't know it was date dependent either.

 

[shivas irons]

He completed 22yrs, knob!

Its possible to complete 38 years service in the RAF good grief