Military Charities

[shivas irons]

Think it's easier to say that you are clearer wrong if you really think your opinion is shared by many in civvy street - they are able to raise millions because of people generosity in civvy street. In fact I would say your opinion is as rare as rocking horse poo !!

I know I get accused of talking rubbish but you win hands down - you win by a country mile

I actually hope you are saying these things more for effect than anything but I am disappointed to read such utter nonsense from a UK citizen who is able to sit in comfort because of the bravery of young men and women in the country.

They are know what what is ahead when they say up - mess jollies ?! Such ignorance is beyond belief.

Again an ex military opinion.......I'm not denying the bravery at all and stand in awe of it but its a personal choice to become a soldier and accept all that goes with it the good times and the bad......and I'll add the men and the woman in the 1st and 2nd world wars had no choice in the matter but got on with life afterwards, some affected yes but they lived without the need for charity.

 

[Foxholer]

.....and I'll add the men and the woman in the 1st and 2nd world wars had no choice in the matter but got on with life afterwards, some affected yes but they lived without the need for charity.

More complete tosh!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Again an ex military opinion.......I'm not denying the bravery at all and stand in awe of it but its a personal choice to become a soldier and accept all that goes with it the good times and the bad......and I'll add the men and the woman in the 1st and 2nd world wars had no choice in the matter but got on with life afterwards, some affected yes but they lived without the need for charity.

So what about Rafa or Army Benevolent fund or Poppy appeal - if you believe that those people who took part in previous wars haven't had to rely on charity then again your ignorance is apparent - many homes around the country are funded by military charities so that they can live out theirs lives in peace and comfort ( because again the government don't do anything )

When the 2nd world war finished - millions of young men and women returned to build a new country - the country was there to support them in building lives after the wars , jobs were there for them or continued careers in the military.

 

[hovis]

some affected yes but they lived without the need for charity.

According to my old history teacher. There we're more suicides after the war then died on a battle ground ( cant remeber what battle is was but it was alot of deaths) perhaps more charity's back then could have stoped veterans hanging themselves

 

[shivas irons]

I hate to say it but phil is right. He was in the air force too (they attract a higher class of riff raff than the army). From being in army accommodation i can tell you I'd take a council house any day

Absolute rubbish! Theres non officers living in 4 bedroom detached houses with garage on the base near where I live paying just £350 a month to live there and with no council tax, your way off.....

 

[hovis]

Absolute rubbish! Theres non officers living in 4 bedroom detached houses with garage on the base near where I live paying just £350 a month to live there and with no council tax, your way off.....

I had a 3 bedroom house to share with one other bloke. The house was that bad we had it rent free. You also state one case. Im not saying there isnt good army accommodation out there but the majority is way under par. What part of the army was you in?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Absolute rubbish! Theres non officers living in 4 bedroom detached houses with garage on the base near where I live paying just £350 a month to live there and with no council tax, your way off.....

Who told you that - and which camp is this ?

Every single military person pays the same equivalent council tax as someone outside the camp

For my single room with a sink I paid 95 quid a month !!

Grade A accomodation for houses is around £600 a month for 3 bed plus £75 for each bedroom above.

 

[Hobbit]

What is a military charity to me? It gives me an opportunity to say thank you for their commitment, and to support them in some small way for their sacrifice. Even if the Govt paid out more to support those servicemen in need I'd still cough up as a thank you.

The reality of the situation is they need our help. Turning a blind eye to that, after what they've done for us, is a disgrace.

 

[shivas irons]

According to my old history teacher. There we're more suicides after the war then died on a battle ground ( cant remeber what battle is was but it was alot of deaths) perhaps more charity's back then could have stoped veterans hanging themselves

Theres plenty who take their lives now with the help and its a bloody sad state of affairs, but they had the choice to avoid conflict unlike the soldiers in the 1st and 2nd wars.

 

[Hobbit]

Absolute rubbish! Theres non officers living in 4 bedroom detached houses with garage on the base near where I live paying just £350 a month to live there and with no council tax, your way off.....

You might be right BUT that isn't who the military charities support.

 

[PhilTheFragger]

Again an ex military opinion.......I'm not denying the bravery at all and stand in awe of it but its a personal choice to become a soldier and accept all that goes with it the good times and the bad......and I'll add the men and the woman in the 1st and 2nd world wars had no choice in the matter but got on with life afterwards, some affected yes but they lived without the need for charity.

yes it was a different world then, with pretty near full employment, many jobs being labour intensive, a house only cost 4 x your annual salary compared to now when its 10 x plus (certainly down here)

you simply cannot compare then with now, it doesnt compute

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Theres plenty who take their lives now with the help and its a bloody sad state of affairs, but they had the choice to avoid conflict unlike the soldiers in the 1st and 2nd wars.

So it's the soldiers own fault then because they made the choice to defend this country and your ability to sit there and slag them off.

What you are saying is disgusting

You have a free voice because of people's making a choice to defend the country

 

[Foxholer]

Absolute rubbish! Theres non officers living in 4 bedroom detached houses with garage on the base near where I live paying just £350 a month to live there and with no council tax, your way off.....

Seems like an abberation to me - certainly not the norm. Are they the only person/family in the house? Rank?

Pretty sure there's a standard scale for accommodation charges according to rank/status that takes a 'reasonable' amount for reasonable accommodation leaving a reasonable nett wage!

Barracks, Messes and Married Quarters provided by DoD are exempt from Council Tax. MoD actually makes a contribution to Councils in lieu of Council Tax - so an apparent 'perk'. But not really, given the condition of most of them!

 

[hovis]

Theres plenty who take their lives now with the help and its a bloody sad state of affairs, but they had the choice to avoid conflict unlike the soldiers in the 1st and 2nd wars.

Are you for real? You said they got on with things without charity back then and im saying if there was charities then perhaps they could have saved the life's of the poor sods made to fight

 

[hovis]

So it's the soldiers own fault then because they made the choice to defend this country and your ability to sit there and slag them off.

What you are saying is disgusting

You have a free voice because of people's making a choice to defend the country

This

 

[rosecott]

Thank goodness we have been alerted to the star rating system for threads. Have a look and see how the OP's thread is rated - talk about swimming against the tide.

 

[shivas irons]

Who told you that - and which camp is this ?

Every single military person pays the same equivalent council tax as someone outside the camp

For my single room with a sink I paid 95 quid a month !!

Grade A accomodation for houses is around £600 a month for 3 bed plus £75 for each bedroom above.

Dont know what RAF you where in but all the military personal get CRT (council tax relief) which has been doubled since 2011,
£95 a month for bedsit CT rubbish, I pay £80 on a two bedroom house.

 

[shivas irons]

So it's the soldiers own fault then because they made the choice to defend this country and your ability to sit there and slag them off.

What you are saying is disgusting

You have a free voice because of people's making a choice to defend the country

Crap dont put words in my mouth...I havent slagged the military off at all so thats a pathetic argument, ive mearly stated that they sign up to do a specific job that carries huge risks and have to bare the consequences.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Dont know what RAF you where in but all the military personal get CRT (council tax relief) which has been doubled since 2011,
£95 a month for bedsit CT rubbish, I pay £80 on a two bedroom house.

They get council tax relief when they are out of the country on operations as well as relief on properties they own but can't live in due to being posted away

And yes I paid that for my room.

I'm actually stating facts from experience - your is just total nonsense ( which is your theme for this thread )

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Crap dont put words in my mouth...I havent slagged the military off at all so thats a pathetic argument, ive mearly stated that they sign up to do a specific job that carries huge risks and have to bare the consequences.

You are pretty much stating that it's their own fault what happens to them in the military and they must "man up" I think you said !!