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shivas irons said:
All the people who are critical of me on here can you respond to my last post number 52...
RAF Wattisham Phil RAF left in the early 90's now an army base.
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I know I have spent many months there doing exercises with the Jags there and was accommodated in 4 man rooms with holes in the wall.

Was taken over by the army for the Army Air Corp with the apache helicopter alongside the US Airforce and 22 Sqn and was given a refit from the defence budget and funding from the US. Also has a facility there for combat stress victims - funded by H4H

The place is not a nice place and the single blocks there are awful and the majority of the quarters are awful
 
Doon frae Troon said:
A bit of bullying going on here folks.
I get Shivas's point and, as I said, it's a numbers thing.
Anyone know how much the Poppy appeal raises anually?
Anyone know how many UK injured service men and women need care in 2014 compared to 1980.

I know the H4H thing came about because of a shameful lack of government funding to look after our injured troops.
At the same time our troops were given poor quality armour and equipment.
I fully support H4H, but think that as a duty of care it should be funded by the taxpayer and not a charity.

BTW there are many UK workers who put their lives on the line to protect and serve the public.
Miners, Police, NHS staff. Social workers and Doormen for starters.
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List of top charities by donation from 2012 H4H mid 50's

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/apr/24/top-1000-charities-donations-britain
 
shivas irons said:
They like the risk but dont expect any sympathy, they choose to do it.
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When has anyone in the military ever expected sympathy

You are taking about security in the private sector - protecting the rich and famous etc or possibly going out to afghan and earning double tax free compared to a private
 
Liverpoolphil said:
I know I have spent many months there doing exercises with the Jags there and was accommodated in 4 man rooms with holes in the wall.

Was taken over by the army for the Army Air Corp with the apache helicopter alongside the US Airforce and 22 Sqn and was given a refit from the defence budget and funding from the US. Also has a facility there for combat stress victims - funded by H4H

The place is not a nice place and the single blocks there are awful and the majority of the quarters are awful
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Still I dont agree on your opinion of the quarters, theres an estate thats only 20 yrs old there that house many servicemen and the old accomodation isnt sub standard by any means.
 
Having recently spent time in a major rehab unit, I say these people deserve all the help and assistance they can get, whether it is from government funded sources or fro charity sources.

I couldn't do it, but, I'm so gratefu,ll that they did do it and as a consequence, at considerable cost to many of them.

Sorry but the OP is so far of beam here and subsequent posts have just proved that.

A new low for the forum.
 
shivas irons said:
Still I dont agree on your opinion of the quarters, theres an estate thats only 20 yrs old there that house many servicemen and the old accomodation isnt sub standard by any means.
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I know you don't agree.

It's par for the course

At least I have comfort that you are extremely wrong and it appears a disgrace opinion like yours is very much a minority
 
Liverpoolphil said:
When has anyone in the military ever expected sympathy

You are taking about security in the private sector - protecting the rich and famous etc or possibly going out to afghan and earning double tax free compared to a private
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No I'm talking about Security Guarding premises, nighclub door work,building sites, holiday parks,all general security work.. not private, so your opinion on post 52 then Phil??
 
shivas irons said:
No I'm talking about Security Guarding premises, nighclub door work,building sites, holiday parks,all general security work.. not private, so your opinion on post 52 then Phil??
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I posted my opinion already

You really want to compare the work of a bouncer or a building security guard to that of someone serving the country ?!?

Many jobs have risks with them - start a charity for bouncers.

So you are unhappy because people that put their lives on line for country get charity support

Where as the guy that throws out drunk people or stops people breaking into a building don't get charity support !!!

You astound me - you really do
 
hovis said:
Have you been inside one?
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Yes lived inside one for 9 years as my father was on 56 phantom sqd in the 70's and 80's on the base, he was reposted to the same sqd because my sister married and settled locally enabling him to do so, after 38 years service and leaving as a warrant officer at 54 it was very difficult for him but he got no help, he got another lesser job and just got on with it.
 
shivas irons said:
Yes lived inside one for 9 years as my father was on 56 phantom sqd in the 70's and 80's on the base, he was reposted to the same sqd because my sister married and settled locally enabling him to do so, after 38 years service and leaving as a warrant officer at 54 it was very difficult for him but he got no help, he got another lesser job and just got on with it.
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How about in the last 30 years since then

The world is different from the 80's - the threat is different from the 80's

Did your Dad ask for help ? My dad left in 91 and had no issues.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
I posted my opinion already

You really want to compare the work of a bouncer or a building security guard to that of someone serving the country ?!?

Many jobs have risks with them - start a charity for bouncers.

So you are unhappy because people that put their lives on line for country get charity support

Where as the guy that throws out drunk people or stops people breaking into a building don't get charity support !!!

You astound me - you really do
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All I'm saying is they are both jobs that carry risk but in security (and other jobs for that matter)theres no charitable help for those injured, why should people make such a big deal of it with the military? Its wrong.
 
shivas irons said:
All I'm saying is they are both jobs that carry risk but in security (and other jobs for that matter)theres no charitable help for those injured, why should people make such a big deal of it with the military? Its wrong.
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Can you really not see the difference ?

And how is making a big deal

Making people are showing their appreciation for people who put their lives on the line for the country

I ll say it again - putting their lives on the line for the country.

You must be on a wind up surely ?!
 
A bouncer on the door at the local night club = a soldier serving in Afghan?! A bouncer defending the door of a private business = a soldier defending a way of life/country/democracy?!

Ok, what's she put in your tea tonight?
 
As a serving soldier fresh back from my 3rd tour and 2nd of Afghanistan i cant actually believe im reading what the OP has posted!!
 
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