stevelev
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I though personally a more appropriate form of capital punishment, such as on a bonfire, high up so he burns slowly.
Mick Philpott
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I though personally a more appropriate form of capital punishment, such as on a bonfire, high up so he burns slowly.
tyke
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A very good alternative to the gallows.
DappaDonDave
Journeyman Pro
Like those three guys who've just got life for murdering a child molester? Unfortunately law doesn't seek eye for an eye retribution, unless its shariah law.
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
Yes, I think there is a link. His mistress left with five of his kids and took their benefits with her, his plan was to make it look as if she started the fire so he could discredit her and get the kids back along with their benefits.
User20205
Money List Winner
are you somehow implying that the benefits system made him into a sociopath ? or did he manage that all by himself?
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
I'm not implying anything. I was directly answering a previous question that asked whether his benefits had any link to him killing his kids. I dont believe he deliberately tried to kill those children even if his actions were reckless, I still think their actions were to get his other kids back along with their benefits.
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Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
Did you ever used to watch 3-2-1 with Ted Rodgers and Dusty Bin? Especially the bit at the end where they revealed the prize by linking them to the cryptic clues, where the links from the clue to the prize were so tenuous and random. Well looking back on that some of those links seemed more logical than yours here
All you have done is portrayed the sequence of events with a few assumptions, and concluded that the fact he was on benefits is a direct cause to this tragedy.
Tommo21
Tour Winner
Did you ever used to watch 3-2-1 with Ted Rodgers and Dusty Bin? Especially the bit at the end where they revealed the prize by linking them to the cryptic clues, where the links from the clue to the prize were so tenuous and random. Well looking back on that some of those links seemed more logical than yours here
All you have done is portrayed the sequence of events with a few assumptions, and concluded that the fact he was on benefits is a direct cause to this tragedy.
I thought the benefit side of this disaster was PART of Philpott's angle.
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Interesting FACT about the benefit system.
In the UK there are 180 families with more than 10 children who receive benefit.
You won't see that in a Daily Mail headline.
In the 1950's my Mums friend had 9 children. In those days when there was NO benefit just the family allowance. 7/6d a week [38p]
All the children grew up to be hardworking decent citizens.
In the UK there are 180 families with more than 10 children who receive benefit.
You won't see that in a Daily Mail headline.
In the 1950's my Mums friend had 9 children. In those days when there was NO benefit just the family allowance. 7/6d a week [38p]
All the children grew up to be hardworking decent citizens.
forefortheday
Tour Rookie
But just think of the impact that £400,000 would have on the deficit!
Meanwhile Vodafone get a £4 billion tax bill written off and get tax credits as they are so "unprofitable" in the UK.
The head of their tax division also happens to be the man who dealt with large corporations at HMRC.
sydney greenstreet
Journeyman Pro
The thing is though Manslaughter did not carry the death penalty.
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
But just think of the impact that £400,000 would have on the deficit!
Meanwhile Vodafone get a £4 billion tax bill written off and get tax credits as they are so "unprofitable" in the UK.
The head of their tax division also happens to be the man who dealt with large corporations at HMRC.
I think that kind of logic is naive. We all know the benefit problem is not just about families with 10 or more children, it about a system that we cannot afford and has created a culture where people are encouraged not to work and to have children (not always more than 10) to get more state handouts and housing.
Just take the case of a a teenage girl who has not been interested with her education, left school barely literate and numerate and is unemployable. Does she stay at home with her parents who may never have worked or get pregnant a few times by some young man who is of a similar ilk and has no means to support her and the kids, she then becomes a priority for social housing and gets enough benefits to have Sky TV, a 50 inch television, and an iphone. Just look around you and see whats going on.
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
I think everyone agrees that the welfare system needs reforming. And there will always be those that take advantage of it and abuse it. So do you get rid of it just to stop the islolated (or I suppose if you read the Daily Mail extremely common) cases of abnormal behaviour by those who are claiming benefits?
To use Philpott manslaughtering his children as an example of what happens when the welfare system goes wrong and to somehow claim a direct link between the welfare system and what he did, thus infering that the welfare system is in some way to blame, is in my book wrong. John Snow puts is a lot more eruditely than I do http://blogs.channel4.com/snowblog/abnormal-behaviour-affect-welfare-policy-debate/20212
rdiblasi75
Newbie
They grew up to be hard working decent citizens because a) they had no other option but to work, b) the work ethic taught them to be decent people.
I dont think anyone has a problem with welfare in theory, like capitalism, and communism it all looks good on paper, its only because it never works the way it was intended for that spoils it.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Correct - BANKING = CAPITALISM = FAILED
So why do our political parties continue to peddle variations of capitalism? - it is a busted flush. The only reason they do it is because it serves the purposes of each party to pander to those who have money as it is a fallacy that those with money hold all the cards and the power. They don't - it is a bluff - and it is time to call their bluff. Let the rich, let the bankers and all their cronies, take their magical skills, talents and wealth elsewhere - and let's see how we do without them. We can't do much worse than we are doing at the moment - in that place where CAPITALISM has brought us - let's at least be decent and honest even if we are a bit poorer.
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deanobillquay
Guest
35 posts about possibly the most despicable man in the current time.
Not worth the forum space, hope someone does him in.
Not worth the forum space, hope someone does him in.
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
You can always move to North Korea.
Liverbirdie
Ryder Cup Winner
Harold Shipman - middle classed, well paid, bearded, nice doctor - Oh yes a sociopath as well.
Class/benefits - no matter, evil is evil.
Tory party/daily mail readers trying to make political acumen, with regards to benefits, about another evil person in Philpott.
If he was an upper class banker, who had fallen on hard times through redundancy, and did the same thing, would the banking system be blamed, would it hell.
I also have problems with the benefits culture, but to use it this way is utterly disgusting.
Class/benefits - no matter, evil is evil.
Tory party/daily mail readers trying to make political acumen, with regards to benefits, about another evil person in Philpott.
If he was an upper class banker, who had fallen on hard times through redundancy, and did the same thing, would the banking system be blamed, would it hell.
I also have problems with the benefits culture, but to use it this way is utterly disgusting.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Capitalism must have failed us as it is capitalism that has got us in this mess. Only the insane continue to do the thing that hurts in expectation of a more pleasurable outcome. RoK wouldn't have me.
Yes, it is disgusting mate. And it's the ravings of a desperate party who are struggling to hold it together.
