Rooter
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And amen to that one too
read post #32. should be done on combined household/family income, not that of an individual. I agree that if you earn over XYZ you shouldnt get it, however the system needs to be fair.
read post #32. should be done on combined household/family income, not that of an individual. I agree that if you earn over XYZ you shouldnt get it, however the system needs to be fair.
stevie_r
Tour Winner
Nah, can't be bothered going back to it but yes, it should be done on the household income.
MarkA
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Who paying for your kids you or the state?
SwingsitlikeHogan
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I'm not whinging about 'benefits' those that need them get and I am not complaining that I don't get any - as we have enough to get by - though at times it is a little nip and tuck. I am a lot less happy when I see the wealthier taking benefits, grants and subsidies when they do not need them - or if they are offered them for spurious reasons. And I turn the other direction and see those who very much depend upon benefits getting some of theirs removed by a mendacious government who look for the worst in anyone claiming the basest of benefits.
MarkA
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If you've got 3 kids and are about to have 4 you know what they cost ( i'm not picking on you in particular)- why should the tax payer have to fund your family? I don't get any handouts. There are comments on the thread about the cost of child care and the damaging effects it has on kids development and the issues it causes, surely then they should be cared for by Mothers at home? Then we get the people saying we cant afford to make ends meet with only one of us working, then we get the moans about childcare costs! Am I missing something? If you cant afford the child care then you cant afford to have a family of the size you have! After all its your choice so please don't moan about it!
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Rooter
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i know exactly how much they cost and i don't get a penny from the state, nor am i asking for any. I am stating that there are families that have more income than my family whom receive child benefit, that's all. Just asking for fairness and a level system to chose who gets and who doesn't.
MarkA
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Rooter I added to my post ( Im not picking on you in particular)
Rooter
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LOL no worries, i was making the point that my kids get well looked after and financially they are 100% my responsibility.
My big bug bear with the whole scenario was they way they did it, looking at individual earners rather than a family income, they took the easy option which see's some very well off families getting benefits they are legally 100% entitled to.
FairwayDodger
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Ach, you were doing so well.
Rooter
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Lets assume he meant Parent. To be fair, i would guess that 90% of the families that have a parent stay at home will be the mother, so lets go easy on him!
MarkA
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Lets assume he meant Parent. To be fair, i would guess that 90% of the families that have a parent stay at home will be the mother, so lets go easy on him!
I did mean parent not mother !!!!
SocketRocket
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I would suggest that no one paying 40% (or more) income tax should receive any benefits.
Regarding childcare. Of course it is best for children to be raised by their parents and if people want others to care for their offspring then it comes with a cost. Of course there will be some cases where the state should support but only in cases genuine hardship.
Regarding childcare. Of course it is best for children to be raised by their parents and if people want others to care for their offspring then it comes with a cost. Of course there will be some cases where the state should support but only in cases genuine hardship.
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Foxholer
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MarkA
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Hardship is one thing but feckless overbreeding is entirely another
V
vkurup
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Certainly living up to your forum name
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Hacker Khan
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Lets assume he meant Parent. To be fair, i would guess that 90% of the families that have a parent stay at home will be the mother, so lets go easy on him!
Or you could assume it was a case of unintentional but casual sexist where it is assumed the women would be the one to give up their career?
Crazyface
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When my lad was born I was a house husband and it was brilliant. Unfortunately wife at the time resented this, but it was practical as she could earn shed loads more than me. Her resentment grew and eventually kicked me out. Like a fool I didn't contest her having custody, my biggest regret of my entire life and I will be to the day I die. She had not got a clue and unfortunately my son has not gone on to be what he could have been. DO NOT QUESTION THIS STATEMENT !
Anyhoo, I say this to warn others. The females are NOT always the best to be the parent to have custody. Also, parents are not always the best to look after the children. Grandchild no1, was a nightmare as a youngster (upto the age of 5) then gradually has got better and is now 11. Grandchild no2, is now being EXACTLY the same. We usually have them over for Sunday dinner, but last Sunday they went out with friends so we had a dinner on our own with, now 20yo lad from previous relationship (don't try and figure all this out) and had a perfect Sunday. No arguements from 11yo. No crying and screaming running round the house like a nutter grabbing anything and everything he should have from 2yo. I've told wifey to have a word. I'm not putting up with that crap anymore.
Cheers for listening. Feel alot better now.
Anyhoo, I say this to warn others. The females are NOT always the best to be the parent to have custody. Also, parents are not always the best to look after the children. Grandchild no1, was a nightmare as a youngster (upto the age of 5) then gradually has got better and is now 11. Grandchild no2, is now being EXACTLY the same. We usually have them over for Sunday dinner, but last Sunday they went out with friends so we had a dinner on our own with, now 20yo lad from previous relationship (don't try and figure all this out) and had a perfect Sunday. No arguements from 11yo. No crying and screaming running round the house like a nutter grabbing anything and everything he should have from 2yo. I've told wifey to have a word. I'm not putting up with that crap anymore.
Cheers for listening. Feel alot better now.
Foxholer
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I believe Family Courts very much recognise this now. Of course, they always did - otherwise there would never have been any question about custody would there!
None of that actually supports an argument that 'parents are not always the best to look after the children'!
Simply that there are different levels of tolerance - and reasons why - from different folk, whether they be family members or not - being family just adds to 'the load'! I'd like to think that we added to several peoples 'education' by insisting that niece actually behave reasonably at our place rather than simply run riot as she did at home and the 1st time she came over! Like you though, it was for 99% selfish reasons!
MarkA
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Or we could of course assume that you were trolling as you've made no other useful contribution to this thread!
