Michael Jackson Dead????

[Leftie]

Whatever my thought are about MJ are irrelevant. It's always sad when anyone dies - particularly so for those left behind.

For the last 36 hours or so, all I have heard is similar mass hysteria as when Diana died. High profile people are often slated when alive but as soon as they die they suddenly they become icons and catalysts for the outpouring of grief.

I grieve at the loss of my family members and friends, but apart from a sadness for those left I was not really moved by the death of either Diana or MJ. I just can't understand the mass wailing and nashing of teeth that we have just seen.

 

[Dodger]

Can't believe no one has asked the question yet....Is he REALLY dead at all?

Guy was in severe financial trouble so has faked his death in fact a worker in the UCLA says she saw him leaving the back door in a nuns uniform.......I love a good conspiracy so I am going with that account.

 

[Leftie]

Thanks mate. Follows on from my post perfectly....

Kennedy, Elvis, Diana, MJ, et al. Mass "grief", signing books of condolence (WHY ?? ), extra post mortems by family, the usual sick "jokes", conspiracy theories ad nausium.

 

[Paul2009]

Ive also thought about that dodger - money making scam by MJ. Financial trouble so why not just fake death and use all the iconic status and media attention to make a few bob- there'll sure be some people invstigating it as a conspiracy

 

[Handycap]

So the LA fire brigade and health department along with the Police department and the state judiciary are in collaboration with the faked death of MJ.
It may have been an easier option for Jackson to plan a come-back tour rather than convince all of the above to back him in his bid to make a few bob.

 

[CrapHacker]

My opinion and your's may differ. I preferred Joe Strummer's music to Michael Jackson's. I also preferred Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix, John Martyn, and a great many other artists to Michael Jackson. But just because I prefer to listen to a different genre of music doesn't mean that my choice of music is "the best". Of course your choice of music is 'the best' - for you. Music is a subjective choice and all opinions should be heralded .

There are times when through raw talent or personal endeavour, an individual can become internatinally recognised. To maintain that recognition over the rest of your lifetime and after your death is something special.
We all know the names of people that have attained such status: Neil Armstrong, Nelson Mandella, Mohammed Ali, Elvis Presley etc. I absolutely agree with this. And undeniably Jacko raised the bar with 'pop' music. But he did it in an age when it wasn't just about 'The Music'. He was one of the leaders into the new era when being a 'pop'star was more about the packaging, rather than just the content. Would Thriller or Bad have made such a huge worldwide impact without the videos, marketing etc that went with them ? An impossible question, I know, but one that I can't help asking after all this hoohah since his death.

I'm not claiming that those names are any "better" than one another or whose skills and talents can be directly compared, but what they have in common through their achievements have had an international impact around the world. I believe that Michael Jackson will be remembered for his talent on a global scale long into the future. This doesn't make Jackson a world leader, just a talented artist whose music had a significant effect on the world. The same will not be credited to Joe Strummer. I'm not for one moment suggesting that Strummer's death had, or should have had, a huge impact on the world. I used Joe because, when he died, I felt a genuine response. I feel no such response with Jacko. I accept the media hype will remember him as a great, what I question is whether his undeniably inappropriate lifestyle should merit such complete and utter adulation, rather than a more balanced view of his life as a whole.


There are bound to be text messages and emails clogging up memory chips on phones and computers with all the latest Michael Jackson jokes, and I find it refreshing that for the most part, this thread has remained free of the more tasteless ones. I am pretty thick skinned, but some of the more lurid ones I find offensive. It's easy to mock celebrities and some of them truly deserve pegging back a notch or two, but would you laugh as much over tasteless offensive jokes if they were directed at your sister, brother mother or father. Or is it OK so long as it's someone else's sister, brother, mother or father? I know that in no way are you implying that I made any offensive jokes about his death, but I'd have prefered it if you hadn't made this comment at the end of a post quoting me. Some people may well only scan read your post, and with it make that jump that it is connected with my opinions, without reading the thread through in it's entirety

Good post. And I understand you are just giving your opinion.

All those greats you mentioned above had help achieving what they did. No question. The most obvious link would be with Elvis - the greatest rock star ever.

Without Elvis, or someone doing the same thing as him, Rock music wouldn't have become the force it did - it would have just been another type of music alongside Jazz, and Swing. but he spearheaded the whole of the advancement of youth culture, making teenagers and young people more powerful both politically, and financially in society than they had ever been before.

I, personally, find it difficult to see what Jacko did to help the furtherment of society, apart from helping make MTV one of the richest companies in the world.

History may well prove me wrong.

But I've always seen Jacko as a talented guy, who was pushed to the limit of his talent at too young an age, which then unbalanced him into his adult life.

By accepting the good things he achieved, but ignoring the blacker side of his soul, ( his relationships with the mothers of his children is just a simple example ) I think we are just accepting the media hype. IMO all this proves is that the media can lead our society any way they choose - we will have no voice or opinion without them, if we are not careful.

 

[Handycap]

Hi Craphacker

I'm sorry if my last comment implied association with your post. I should have acknowledged it as a postscript on a different subject, but I am unable to edit my mistake now. Perhaps if a moderator is reading this he/she could oblige.

I appreciate your comments but I stand by my opinion that Michael Jackson had a talent that transcended the hype that inevitably surrounded him.

It is refreshing this correspondence can remain cordial while expressing conflicting opinion, but I think you will agree that this is how it should be!

All the best.