Jumping on someone else's booking?

[Robster59]

We book 8 days in advance and our booking system still allows anonymous.

About two a days after the booking system has gone live the office checks the booking system and removes all the silly names and anonymous bookings. 2 days is considered sufficient time for a player to book in their mates.

The manager has received emails about players wanting to play on their own , 2 or 3 balls and have been given a definite no if if other players wants to take up the spare slots.

10 minute tee intervals has seriously reduced the number of players that can play so booking slots are at a premium.

Because of the traceability regulations, we can't have anyone in a slot that isn't a member (no guest, or not registered).

 

[Blue in Munich]

Normal form at mine is that whoever is the first name on the booking controls it; you can't add yourself, they have to add you. Not sure if it is still running at the moment, what with the booking changes due to Covid. So you either contact them direct and ask, or if they want people to fill it they advertise the slot on the various WhatsApp groups.

 

[sunshine]

Under our covid rules all players are expected to have left the property by 9pm.
Manager had a moan about players doing what you do.

I don't really get rules like this. Is it because COVID only comes out after 9pm? You need to be barricaded in your home by sunset, that's when the infected roam the streets / golf courses.

 

[Eagle2]

Ive joined a new club and have loads of spare time with COVID. Ive joined on with others and only had good experiences meeting loads of people and feeling like I could walk into the clubhouse when it opens and have a chat with a beer with a fair few people.

I would just go with it mate... there is only one person I have met that I probably wouldn’t book on with again but it was perfectly tolerable for 4 hours playing a game.

Having said all this I love going out alone for abit of practice... but as others have said you need to go up on a night to expect this.

 

[jim8flog]

I don't really get rules like this. Is it because COVID only comes out after 9pm? You need to be barricaded in your home by sunset, that's when the infected roam the streets / golf courses.

pre covid we had a person(s) living on site (the caterers) responsible for locking the gates at dusk they have now relinquished their contract with us the responsibility now lies with others who do want to work that late.

Our property is a prime 'target' for travellers to set up in, we have endured this problem on several occasions in the past, coupled with several attempts to break in to our greenkeeper's compound which is obviously well out of sight, hence the need for lockable gates.

 

[Green Bay Hacker]

None of my regular PPs are around tomorrow, had a look on BRS this morning and saw there was a free tee time at 8am, so booked that for myself. Got a couple of 4 balls in front of me, so the intention was to take my time and have a little potter around.

However just got an email from BRS saying that 3 guys I've never heard of have jumped onto my booking. Had a look on the members' list, and they are all very low handicappers (2, 4 and 5). There is a comp on tomorrow, which they are bound to be in, so that means playing off the whites instead of the yellows, so all in all, my nice little knock around is kyboshed.

Is it wrong to be narked by this? I know it's a busy time, but (rightly or wrongly) I would never think of putting my name down to play with a stranger, particularly if I had 2 mates in tow. (I do make a point of asking single players if they want to join us when letting them play through, but it's always their choice).

Is there any kind of etiquette around this? I know that if, for example, a mate and myself put ourselves down to play with 2 women members, they would be very likely to take umbrage.

Could your club not have allocated some tee times for members who did not want to play in the competition and just wanted a social round?

 

[williamalex1]

Booking a full tee slot that's meant for 3 or 4 players, knowing that the others wont show because you want to play alone or as a 2 ball is wrong and very selfish IMO .
Booking for 2 players who are playing a match / tie fair enough, but not just for a bounce game.
Saturdays are competition play only [ summertime] , until after 3.30 pm , i think.

 

[rudebhoy]

Could your club not have allocated some tee times for members who did not want to play in the competition and just wanted a social round?

All bookings are done on BRS, not sure if that level of functionality exists?

 

[Maninblack4612]

All bookings are done on BRS, not sure if that level of functionality exists?

Yes it is. We do it.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

If I want to play by myself at the moment I limit myself to evenings. A morning tee times by myself is just not going to happen. Tee bookings after 6pm are usually thin on the ground and so, if I can, I'll choose a time with a couple of empty slots before and a couple after. Gives me some elbow room so not going to be pressed or to be pushing. If another solo fancies a knock with me and sticks his name down with me I'd never ever say Sorry - I booked to play by myself. The other member wants to play and wants a bit of company so fine.

What I might say - if this is true - is that I don't intend to play a full round and might jump between holes. If he is OK with that then fine. If there is a free slot behind me he might just wait and let me go. If another singleton appears to be waiting to go off behind me I'll ask if he wants to join me - if he says No - that he's happy playing a few by himself then great. But I'll always ask. And likewise - if I am that guy waiting I might also say No - I'm happy to plod along by myself behind.

For me this really is just common courtesy stuff and part of the responsibilities and considerations to others of being a member of a club.

 

[sunshine]

pre covid we had a person(s) living on site (the caterers) responsible for locking the gates at dusk they have now relinquished their contract with us the responsibility now lies with others who do want to work that late.

Our property is a prime 'target' for travellers to set up in, we have endured this problem on several occasions in the past, coupled with several attempts to break in to our greenkeeper's compound which is obviously well out of sight, hence the need for lockable gates.

That's a real shame.

One solution would be to install an automatic barrier that is operated by security code, fob, swipe card, token etc. Then you can keep the gate locked all day every day. I recognise that this costs money, but a couple of grand is well worth it compared to the consequences of travellers / intruders.

 

[rksquire]

I'd actually quite like a knock on my own at the minute, but it's just not feasible and I'm okay with that. However, the system is being abused all over it seems. Wednesday afternoon we'd booked a 4 ball, the system showed 2 4 balls ahead of us and a 4 ball after, with the next couple after a mix of 3 and 4 balls. What actually happened is we were immediately followed by 2 singles. So either people hadn't turned up or people are just blocking out the names. The course was also full from the 5th to about the 12th so nowhere for those guys to go, and they weren't interested in joining up together.

 

[jim8flog]

That's a real shame.

One solution would be to install an automatic barrier that is operated by security code, fob, swipe card, token etc. Then you can keep the gate locked all day every day. I recognise that this costs money, but a couple of grand is well worth it compared to the consequences of travellers / intruders.

Not really feasable the gates are far away from clubhouse etc and there are hours we are open when there are no staff around eg first tee and somebody actually returns to the premises to lock the gates

Your 2 grand guess is probably way off the mark I know what it cost us just to have sunken padlock posts on the upper roadside section of the course.

 

[sunshine]

Not really feasable the gates are far away from clubhouse etc and there are hours we are open when there are no staff around eg first tee and somebody actually returns to the premises to lock the gates

Your 2 grand guess is probably way off the mark I know what it cost us just to have sunken padlock posts on the upper roadside section of the course.

My point was that if you have automatic gates you don't need staff around, and it doesn't matter if it is far away from the clubhouse.

You're right I had no idea on cost, it was just a guess.

https://www.barriersdirect.co.uk/ba...7/automatic-rising-arm-barrier-new-style-p581

Not a terrible guess. Obviously there are installation costs as well. Still a lot cheaper than the costs incurred moving on / cleaning up a group of travellers.

 

[jim8flog]

My point was that if you have automatic gates you don't need staff around, and it doesn't matter if it is far away from the clubhouse.

You're right I had no idea on cost, it was just a guess.

https://www.barriersdirect.co.uk/ba...7/automatic-rising-arm-barrier-new-style-p581

Not a terrible guess. Obviously there are installation costs as well. Still a lot cheaper than the costs incurred moving on / cleaning up a group of travellers.

Something like that would not stop the travellers round here, more likely to nick it for scrap metal.

Installation cost would be the major factor as it would need a electric cable to be laid most of the length of the car park.

Under normal circumstance it is not a problem. The greenstaff or cleaners open the gates when they arrive and the caterers, who normally live on onsite close up. I think the club with it's limited financial rescources would sooner use the money on other projects.

 

[sunshine]

Installation cost would be the major factor as it would need a electric cable to be laid most of the length of the car park.

You can get a solar powered barrier with a back up battery to avoid laying a cable. Don't know if this would help or be an extra thing to nick.

 

[Green Bay Hacker]

All bookings are done on BRS, not sure if that level of functionality exists?

Not sure how BRS can be controlled by the admins but we use Master Scoreboard and on comp days there is a second booking slot of times put up for anyone who wants to play social golf only. We are only letting members play at the moment so visitors would not be able to book a tee time.

 

[rudebhoy]

Not sure how BRS can be controlled by the admins but we use Master Scoreboard and on comp days there is a second booking slot of times put up for anyone who wants to play social golf only. We are only letting members play at the moment so visitors would not be able to book a tee time.

we don't have that. Tee booking is via BRS, comp entry is via a sheet in the locker room / pro shop for knockouts, or by paying on the day in the pro shop for normal weekly comps.

 

[Crazyface]

I have put my name down with 3 fellas I don't know tomorrow. More fun than playing with the same group every week if you mix it up a bit.

Most folk are fairly decent, very rarely you find yourself playing with a bunch of clowns.

At the same token you can't expect to have a booking to yourself when courses are as busy as they are currently.

Nothing to say you have to play in the comp with, just play off the same tee.

This.

 

[mteam]

How did your round go rudebhoy? did you enjoy it?