Internal out of bounds

[dgparry]

We know OOB posts cannot be moved, but what about internal ones. OOB on one hole but not on the adjacent hole, ball comes to rest against an OOB post on the hole OOB doesn't appertain to. Do you take full relief or move the post?

 

[Wabinez]

This should be a local rule more than anything I would say.

I would hazard a guess that it is an immovable object and full relief must be taken

 

[Val]

This should be a local rule more than anything I would say.

I would hazard a guess that it is an immovable object and full relief must be taken

Wouldn't disagree with that assessment. It's not an OOB stake in the hole in question

 

[winty57]

Unless it is a local rule you may not move the post, can take relief under penalty, very harsh but the club should be aware of these instances and choose to make a local rule or ignore it. Not many people know this rule/situation.

 

[williamalex1]

Wouldn't disagree with that assessment. It's not an OOB stake in the hole in question

Martin I recall that EasterMoffat has immovable internal OOBs markers between 2 holes , is it NPR plus a club length ?.

 

[Colin L]

Internal OOB posts are not obstructions and you do not get relief on either hole unless a local rule states that they are immovable obstructions when playing the hole on which they do not apply. See Decision 24-5

http://www.usga.org/rules/rules-and-decisions.html#!decision-24,d24-5

 

[mikejohnchapman]

We have this configuration and you can remove the post on the hole where the OOB does not apply.

To help the posts are painted white facing the OOB hole and green on the other.

 

[hovis]

Easiest way to remember is consider oob stakes as trees. No matter where they are they cannot be removed without a local rule.

Last years club champs i warned a guy not to remove one. He did and it cost him second place

 

[backwoodsman]

We have this configuration and you can remove the post on the hole where the OOB does not apply.

To help the posts are painted white facing the OOB hole and green on the other.

Hmmm. That's not the way it should be done.

As per Colin's, the club can make a local rule to give relief, but it should be a free drop from an immovable obstruction rather than letting someone move the post.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Martin I recall that EasterMoffat has immovable internal OOBs markers between 2 holes , is it NPR plus a club length ?.

Do I not like the internal OoB on your 4th

 

[williamalex1]

Do I not like the internal OoB on your 4th

We have a local rule allowing free a drop if the marker post or ditch interferes with your swing or stance.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

We have a local rule allowing free a drop if the marker post or ditch interferes with your swing or stance.

Unfortunately the peach of a drive I hit up there in your Open wasn't quite as peachy as I thought as it ended up 3ft wrong side of the line

 

[Val]

Martin I recall that EasterMoffat has immovable internal OOBs markers between 2 holes , is it NPR plus a club length ?.

Missed this post, yes it has but on one of the holes they wouldnt or should I say shouldnt be in play given where the are but you can move these posts so I would say you require a drop just move the post

 

[williamalex1]

Missed this post, yes it has but on one of the holes they wouldnt or should I say shouldnt be in play given where the are but you can move these posts so I would say you require a drop just move the post

A few years ago playing in your seniors a FC was told he wasn't allowed to move the markers , by members playing down the other hole.

 

[williamalex1]

Unfortunately the peach of a drive I hit up there in your Open wasn't quite as peachy as I thought as it ended up 3ft wrong side of the line

I did warn you about the OOB

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I did warn you about the OOB

Oh I knew about it - just that I temporarily forgot... Donald managed to find the OoB also so we had fun on that hole

 

[Val]

A few years ago playing in your seniors a FC was told he wasn't allowed to move the markers , by members playing down the other hole.

You can't move them if you are playing the 10th (up the hill) where they mark the internal OOB as you can't move an OOB marker. I believe on the 9th where they have no relevence on that hole you can move them (maybe a rules guru can confirm?). That said, they shouldn't interfere with any shot on the 9th, if they do you get what you deserve for knobbing it off the tee

 

[williamalex1]

You can't move them if you are playing the 10th (up the hill) where they mark the internal OOB as you can't move an OOB marker. I believe on the 9th where they have no relevence on that hole you can move them (maybe a rules guru can confirm?). That said, they shouldn't interfere with any shot on the 9th, if they do you get what you deserve for knobbing it off the tee

That the same with the OOB stakes between our 3rd and 4th we can get relief only when playing the 3rd. BTW he was playing the 10th and he was a knob :smirk:

 

[Val]

That the same with the OOB stakes between our 3rd and 4th we can get relief only when playing the 3rd. BTW he was playing the 10th and he was a knob :smirk:

Sounds like it

 

[Spuddy]

You can't move them if you are playing the 10th (up the hill) where they mark the internal OOB as you can't move an OOB marker. I believe on the 9th where they have no relevence on that hole you can move them (maybe a rules guru can confirm?). That said, they shouldn't interfere with any shot on the 9th, if they do you get what you deserve for knobbing it off the tee

Internal OOB markers should never be removed, even if playing the hole where they aren't marking the OOB. If you move them then you may be at risk of changing the dimension of the OOB area for the hole where the markers are relevant.

as has been said they should be classed as immovable obstructions in the local rules