Indyref2

[FairwayDodger]

Indyref2 is on the back burner now possibly for no reason other than it's clear to the snp that in the current climate they'd lose it.

They know they've probably got one more chance before it gets too ridiculous to keep trying so they won't take a punt when they know won't win.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

No, do you deny any of mine?

The SNP had a horrendous night, any party losing a third of their seats is in turmoil. My bubble is still inflated, yours however :rofl:

My bubble is half foo.
We are agreed then.....other than 4/5

You are making the lazy assumption that only folk who want Independence vote SNP and only folk who don't want Independence vote Labour/Tory.
Nobody really knows the answer to that one for sure.

 

[Hobbit]

You seem to be the only one saying.......success.


BTW can we keep the HA Ha's to the naff football threads.......#tryingaweebittoohard

Hahahahahahahahahaha

You're the best joke I've seen all day

Hahahahaha

 

[SocketRocket]

Hahahahahahahahahaha

You're the best joke I've seen all day

Hahahahaha

Me thinks Doom protesteth too much!

 

[the smiling assassin]

My bubble is half foo.
We are agreed then.....other than 4/5

You are making the lazy assumption that only folk who want Independence vote SNP and only folk who don't want Independence vote Labour/Tory.
Nobody really knows the answer to that one for sure.

I miss it when it was just your other half who supported independence - old times TUC

 

[chippa1909]

I actually agree with Kaz. 😯
On the back burner for now, but never dead in the water.
I think us Yessers will now sit back, crack open a nice chilled bottle of Schadenfreude and watch the ridiculous brexit shambles develop and take it from there.

 

[FairwayDodger]

I actually agree with Kaz. 😯
On the back burner for now, but never dead in the water.
I think us Yessers will now sit back, crack open a nice chilled bottle of Schadenfreude and watch the ridiculous brexit shambles develop and take it from there.

Had to happen sooner or later.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I miss it when it was just your other half who supported independence - old times TUC

She is raging at the SLAB folk who voted Tory, it's always funny when she swears in her posh English voice.:rofl:

 

[the smiling assassin]

Every Yes2 sticker on show is just another nail in the Indy coffin for now.

 

[FairwayDodger]

She is raging at the SLAB folk who voted Tory, it's always funny when she swears in her posh English voice.:rofl:

Hmm except the labour vote increased... I think she'll need to look a wee bit closer to home to find where the Tory voters came from...?

 

[Val]

I actually agree with Kaz. 😯
On the back burner for now, but never dead in the water.
I think us Yessers will now sit back, crack open a nice chilled bottle of Schadenfreude and watch the ridiculous brexit shambles develop and take it from there.

It will happen, hopefully not for a generation though

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Hmm except the labour vote increased... I think she'll need to look a wee bit closer to home to find where the Tory voters came from...?

The Labour vote was boosted by the tactical votes of the Torys/Lib Dems.

You can't take much from the figures of the Tory/Labour vote in Scotland......lots of folk swopping sides to stop the SNP.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

The Labour vote was boosted by the tactical votes of the Torys/Lib Dems.

You can't take much from the figures of the Tory/Labour vote in Scotland......lots of folk swopping sides to stop the SNP.

Did they tell you that when they voted or you just plucking rubbish out of the air

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

The Labour vote was boosted by the tactical votes of the Torys/Lib Dems.

You can't take much from the figures of the Tory/Labour vote in Scotland......lots of folk swopping sides to stop the SNP.

How about all the SNP seats (seemed to be a few when i flicked through) where it was almost split 33/33/33, but the snp won with a couple of hundred. How does that fit the formula?

 

[FairwayDodger]

The Labour vote was boosted by the tactical votes of the Torys/Lib Dems.

You can't take much from the figures of the Tory/Labour vote in Scotland......lots of folk swopping sides to stop the SNP.

You can blow as much smoke as you like about tactical voting but cannot conceal the drop in the snp vote.

Blaming labour for the tories is a cynical snp ploy and this, ironically, is a much bigger factor in the Tory revival.

 

[ger147]

Two figures:

SNP total number of votes in 2015 GE: 1,454,436
SNP total number of votes in 2017 GE: 977,569

 

[Deleted member 16999]

The Labour vote was boosted by the tactical votes of the Torys/Lib Dems.

You can't take much from the figures of the Tory/Labour vote in Scotland......lots of folk swopping sides to stop the SNP.

Makes you no better than TM when you look to blame others.

Maybe take a look in the mirror before looking out the window.

 

[Hobbit]

If Scottish Labour voters voted tactically for Tory, how was it Labour also increased their number of seats and overall vote share? How on earth does such a significant number of voters in any given constituency get together and vote x for different party than their first choice?

Truth? They don't. SNP lost support, end of. Weasel words can't hide the fact that the SNP haven't managed the Scottish economy at all well, spending way above their means and returned a failing education system and SNHS.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

If Scottish Labour voters voted tactically for Tory, how was it Labour also increased their number of seats and overall vote share? How on earth does such a significant number of voters in any given constituency get together and vote x for different party than their first choice?

Truth? They don't. SNP lost support, end of. Weasel words can't hide the fact that the SNP haven't managed the Scottish economy at all well, spending way above their means and returned a failing education system and SNHS.

Spot on, you could argue SNP's failure to hold their seats has led to TM getting back in.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Spot on, you could argue SNP's failure to hold their seats has led to TM getting back in.

That is pretty obvious but perhaps I should have mentioned it.